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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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Sergh

Quote from: kolbacict on July 19, 2023, 03:16:50 PM

"See KZ109 under the copper coil?"
Yes,I see.  No wonder I had to repair them for many years.
And why is КЦ106 written in the figure then?

Maybe KZ106 diodes were used in the generator with can (2004), and KZ109 diodes were used in the later  generator "GreenBox".

Quote from: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 02:16:39 AM
"Current Amplifier"
I think that my thoughts and fantasies of an engineer about how Kapanadze's generator is arranged are very close to reality.

An engineer who understands physics needs to determine not only current, voltage or power, but the energy received at the input and generated at the output.

Quote from: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 02:16:39 AM
The principle of operation of the element, the current generator by converting the EMF of the high-voltage voltage source and focusing it on the conductor of the power circuit, the coil (10), into a magnetic vortex field, which is essentially the current force.

It seems that earlier this approach was called "to get a hybrid of a snake and a hedgehog".
Does not work. You cannot connect a car battery  in series with the secondary of the ignition coil and get 30,000 volts 200 amperes.
The current amplifier must amplify current and voltage. Moreover, the voltage must be more than 220 volts, so that due to the voltage drop on the inductance of the bobbin winding, the output is 220 V alternating.
The output of the "current amplifier" must be more than 300 volts of alternating voltage with a current of more than 20 amperes. Then each of the ten elements, probably connected in series, should produce 30 volts RMS, that's 42 volts amplitude, or 84 peak-to-peak.
So imagine which cell can create such a voltage and current of more than 20 amperes.
The only thing that makes the task easier is that the cell can be reversed, create +42 volts and -42 volts, and these pulses can be less than 0.01 seconds long to get a total of 50 Hz.
Maybe there are more items? Based on practice, chemical elements do not allow you to get more than 4 volts.
Then you need to somehow place about 100 elements inside the bobbin. Difficult, besides, they will be very warm. By the way, this is marked in the figure near the inscription "ferite rings" "cheba" is added, which means it is heated.
"Chemical element" in this case does not literally mean a chemical current source. I mean some unidentified cell that is capable of producing energy. "Element X".
Pulse reversible energy source.
It might be difficult. Kapanadze stated that it took him a long time to make a demonstration sample. Maybe these elements of the "current amplifier" are very laborious to manufacture.
I once had a guess. In the workshop of Kapanadze's "Can genarator 2004 ", chasing tools were identified. This is when an image, a picture, is hollowed out on a metal sheet. In the same video, people come to him to discuss a project of work in this area.
Maybe he used same tools to make power cells?
A roll of some kind of cellophane film is visible on the table in the workshop.

Can the production of cells be similar to the production of gold leaf, when a gold plate is placed in a book between sheets of paper and the book is tapped with a hammer, bringing the sheets of gold almost to a transparent state?

rakarskiy

Quote from: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 07:07:35 AM
I think this approach used to be called "get a snake and hedgehog hybrid." It doesn't work ........

First of all, I did not see in the load line of Kapanadze converter, alternating voltage, even with binoculars. At Kapanadze after the PUSH-PULA and the output winding, there is a diode bridge at the output of the diode bridge is a pulse current, which is smoothed by a capacitor (actually a source of direct current). In the second patent it is just a block circuit, nothing more. Thus the whole "cimus" in the element #9, in the focus of which, the secondary so-called winding, stretched in the form of a power circuit wire.  Yes, this element works as a current generator through voltage drop, or rather EMF, which is induced on this piece of wire. 

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Sergh

First, determine the energy source.

1. Wires do not create energy on their own.

2. Wires do not create more energy than these wires receive from the outside in any way.

3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.

r2fpl


rakarskiy

Quote from: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 09:07:23 AM
First, determine the energy source.
1. Wires do not create energy on their own.
2. Wires do not create more energy than these wires receive from the outside in any way.
3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create it.

The conductor is a closed circuit. Only in a closed circuit on the surface of the conductor is the formation of EMF, vortex electric field, between the source of electric field potential difference. But there is a point here. The current generator absorbs EMF to create the appropriate current; the voltage generator produces EMF to maintain current in the circuit. Current is already a magnetic vortex field converted from an electric field. Physicists call third-party EMF, but what kind of third-party is it? The electronic version is going down the toilet.

All synchronous generators work on the principle of a current generator!   Capa just solved the problem differently. By the way, I had a different version, but Capa's version is also interesting.

Budyonny first used high voltage to ignite the arc, and what is on the slide is already a continuation and addition to the patent. Why no patent is the question? More like the same question, why is there no patent of Sergey Borisovich's "Artful Transformer".