Zero and Q device

[Void]

Some things are very hard to accept. Obviously.

It seems we are in complete agreement on that mi amigo.
All the best...

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[NickZ]

   V8karlo:   There is still something that I don't understand. You mentioned the 3 times increase in current at the output, compared to the input. Not just a voltage hike. So, just how did you determine that the output has 3 times more current? As that is the part that I don't get. Just how did you measure that increase?

   I would also like replicate your circuit, but so far, no one (Itsu, Geg, Hoppy) has found anything unusual about this device.
It is still low in efficiency, lower than just connecting the bulb to a battery, or the grid. So, what is the point here?
   Do I really need to build this circuit, just to find the same thing what some of our best experimenters and replicators have found?   I am not asking you to defend anything, I'm asking how you determine the 3 times higher current? 
   On another type of simple oscillator circuit device with it's output connected to a leden jar capacitor, I got the nastiest shock, while using only a 1.5v battery as the input. Could that be something similar,  or not? I'm trying to get to the bottom of all this.
 
   So far at least three members here have replicated this device, and don't see nor claim anything unusual, nor OU, nor self running. They did measure the input to output, and found low efficiency. Also the feed back circuit was tested, and found very little power going back to the battery. Did they all do something wrong???

[Jeg]

Just to make it clear, I experimented only with the Q topology, and I really didn't spend much time on this. As I already shared, 'Q' needs more potential to gather for starting to see energy going back to the source. Keep in mind that I used an already high efficiency push pull with a nasty spike of some thousand volts. But the output didn't contribute at all to the input consumption.       

Hi Nick

Regards

[v8karlo]

   I would also like replicate your circuit.

Hello Nick,

I made 3 separate concepts. I attached all 3 pdf here on this post. I  also explained in pdf-s how they work and scheme.

If you wanna have your own opinion you have to build Zero circuit and see for yourself.
It is 5 components plus 2 bulbs circuit. Very simple circuit.
When you assemble it you will visually see what is happening, and you can feel heat on output bulb.
You will see difference in power on bulbs which should not be there, but there they are.

I can explain all day, until you assemble circuit and see for yourself it is hard to make any conversation at all.
Nobody said that Zero does not work because prove is in front of their eyes, but they can't explain extra heat and light either.

So, best is to make your own Zero circuit so you can see what is going on.

Zero does not have feedback, it is J circuit. You are mixing all 3 concepts in your post, that is why confusion.