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Open Source Vs. Patenting

Started by FreeEnergy, December 17, 2006, 04:22:26 PM

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Open Source Vs. Patenting

I choose Open Source
57 (63.3%)
I choose Patenting
11 (12.2%)
I choose neither
3 (3.3%)
I choose both
18 (20%)
I don't care
0 (0%)
I don't get it?
1 (1.1%)

Total Members Voted: 90

Joe Kelley

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But it is now obvious that you are over compensating for what you don't have as well.
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Anyone,

When can someone clinically be diagnoses as a sociopath? I?ve read more than one source whereby the data suggests the pathology includes a predisposition for insulting other people as if the sociopath were incapable of a reasonable thought.

Take the above, for example. A vague and ambiguous question was asked. The question being asked is perfectly reasonable for, as many people know, there are few ways to gain accurate answers other than to ask questions; however the question asked was too general and not specific enough to allow for an accurate answer.

Here is the vague question:

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What protection is there for open sourcing?
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Perhaps the person asking the question already has a few possible answers in mind or perhaps the person asking the question has no possible answer in mind. The person to whom the question was asked (me) has no clue as to what the answer to the question could be because the question is too vague.

What is open sourcing being protected from?

If I knew what open sourcing was being protected from I could conceive of an answer to the question asked.

Example 1:

What protection is there for open sourcing from attacks to human connectivity?

That is an answerable question.

Example 2:

What protection is there for open sourcing from attacks by large meteors contacting the earth?

Example 3:

What protection is there for open sourcing from attacks by human diseases created and patented by the federal government where the cure is also patented by the federal government and the cure is produced into a state of scarcity so as to command the highest possible price for the cure to the pathological disease business.

Example 4:

What protection is there for open sourcing from attacks by alien abductor who snatch up all the believers in The Rapture?

Example 5:

What protection is there for open sourcing from attacks by forum trolls who do nothing but insult other forum members as a default demonic procedure?

If no one can see the problems associated with vague questions, then no one can.

Please consider abandoning the pathology.

utilitarian

Quote from: Joe Kelley on September 05, 2008, 01:23:31 PM
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Bear in mind as a proponent of a new "law", the burden is on you to support it, not on anyone else to disprove it.
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utilitarian,

You obviously misunderstand my viewpoint. Joe?s Law is merely a way of describing physical and psychological reality. The relationship is what it is, I merely describe it.

If you, I, or anyone thinks that my description is inaccurate the fact that the relationship exists doesn?t change. I see no need to support or disprove the relationship described by Joe?s Law. It exists even if I don?t see it; conversely it won?t vanish if I ignore it.


You are clearly a thinking, intelligent person, but discussions with you are quickly made difficult, for some reason.  I have a hard time putting my finger on it, but you tend to split hairs on tangential issues and so a conversation with you can quickly get derailed.  And, because you are so verbose, it is subsequently easy to just get loss in a mess of text.  I think maybe you would do better just writing a book or a long blog.

If I had more time, I would try to figure out more of where you are going, but I have been working days and nights lately, so I try to limit myself to threads where I can get to the point relatively quickly.

But good luck to you and I hope you get better soon from your many ailments.

Joe Kelley

utilitarian,

Thanks.

I am adding the following to this discussion on patent vs open source:

Here are three links that can help illustrate Joe's Law.

http://www.wavepartner.eu/page_1219330357093.html

That first link is easy to understand for someone like me who has worked 25 years in the construction industry as a mechanic, equipment operator, plant operator, plant repairman, etc.

The idea is sound. That method of producing electric power is extremely profitable at today?s prices of electricity.

Joe?s Law defined again:

Power produced into a state of oversupply will reduce the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the costs of production.

Now add the following link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6157958993884349118&q=joseph+newman

I don?t know if that thing actually works. I have to look into that thing with more intensity. The idea is to desalinate water and thereby make fresh water out of salt water.

So the two links now show a very profitable way to use the ocean waves to generate electricity at very low costs per kilowatt/hour, combined with, a machine that uses very little electricity to pump water up and extract salt from the water.

Now look at this link:

http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/SeaEnergy.htm

I?ve just found these links so more work on validity is needed; however the principles involved are already being proven in practice by many people so I?m merely the messenger in this data stream.

Combining all three links will combine three powerful new industries to help link the ocean based communities with other communities such as the place where I live in the Mojave Desert.

Anywhere on the Planet where power is needed, clean water is needed, and food is needed, these three powerful links empower people.

The last link is to link these links to the people who can make more power in their thinking process.

Power produced into a state of oversupply (not scarcity) will decrease the price of power (not increase it) while purchasing power increases (not decreases) because power reduces the costs of production, and therefore reduces (not increases) the price of everything made with power (which is everything).

Joe Kelley

Anyone,

Here is the cost/benefit for the wave power generator (over-unity):

http://www.wavepartner.eu/page_1219330357093.html

QuoteI have chosen to use cheap materials only, in this demonstration, because the need to bring down production costs, and make it possible to build this type of wave generation device, any where in the world, and with local materials, as car parts etc, which doesn't needs to be imported. Other materials could of course be used, and the schematics for its design of course, be different. Simple is better, it is said, and fewer parts, and bearings, will bring lower cost of building, and also repair.

We can here see energy content in waves, The numbers means kW per hour, and meters of wave. South America, 97 kW per meter of wave, for example, that means, a Wavereaper? device, which is 100 meters broad, would generate 9.7 mw, cost would be around 1200 000 Dollar, for that device. However, the revenue would be over 400 000 dollars monthly with current energy price.


Here is another link:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/423.html

infringer

Open Source is the only way to release energy freedom..

Without an open source and easily reproduceable means of energy generation there will be no "Free Energy"...

Plain and simple unless someone releases to the public the full disclousure on how to reproduce an FE device there will be none.

Greed will allow people to be silenced, Greed will put stops to all avenues of FE and if the inventor is greedy and will not release
via an open source channel, the device will ever remain nothing more then that of talk or vaporware.
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