Open Source Vs. Patenting

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

ZERO is your figure , my R and D contributions/replications are in many documents on the uni site, and i continue to do open source research with them.You have incredulous assumptions, in fact i have never seen your R and D or devices any where , dont want you to be remembered as an avid skeptic, this attitude doesn't get any where on a site like this.

>Name one company that has bought and uses an EBM device to power anything.  Surely there is one - they have been selling these things for years, right?

No, Wrong, You haven't been to the EBM lab and seen the 10 tone device and or tested it and or understand how much they charge for their device. I do.I can see AGAIN that you have no idea of the situation. First you should of gone there your self to find out how much they are charging to use their device and license it.Think people give away a ten tone device to use for normal money?, LOL, your allot dumber then i thought. You think you can just purchase one for a few 1000 dollars?  The point is, your incredulous assumptions are not based on any experience, and your avid skeptic guesses are in now way a contribution much like your R and D attitude i see. I hope you learn and better your self soon and contribute.

Back on topic

The open source software example can be paralleled to the FE movement, open source software makers know that there are people and groups out there etc that will take on their software,use it and improve it, even businesses. Its time now that FE inventors/engineers realize that the same benefits are in the case of the alternative and free energy movements. There are thousands of engineers now ready to replicate and validate the technology. Plus ensure disseminations, not only this, they have also improved what they have. Look at the security it creates in this genre of technology.

For example, the GEET would be NO WHERE, if not for the French open source engineers and Paul Pantone open sourcing a version of the Free plans. This open source disclosure advanced education and caused others to invent the SPAD system which is now a commercial business based on and ONLY as a result of open source engineers efforts.Still it needs due promotion and public attention to reach capacity tho, (we are working on that this year.)

Despite his business mistakes the principle was sound, we already know that opens sourcing technology can work, thats already proven, HOWEVER, in our case, its WHAT we are open sourcing, that is, technology that threatens the status quo  and contradicts faculties circular's. What does that mean? It means that we have MORE of a reason to an extent to release and open source.

If people can lead by example, the same in the case of what Ossie Freedom did with his books sales then every one is happy and there can be improvement and revenue/renumeration return, lets not forget security and advancing education. The EXCUSE of the money issues is over and proven from a 2008 case file!(Ossie).I think our best chance is building on case files to show these benefits and examples to exert a better influence, the OU.com forums engineers are doing this with their R and D, plus we have a concise profile now of case files to help these examples.http://panacea-bocaf.org/howtheywentwrong.htm.

Showing the PUBLIC/patent engineers GROWING case files of the benefits of  open source engineers building(plus Ossie freedoms 3-4 million per year in books sales) and examples of patent engineers and current stagnation  with the previous mistakes (there will be more from patent inventors watch and see) is very objective if presented properly. it is important the PUBLIC know this also.OU.com engineers are instrumental in this, and our open source cases will be the one which breaks the camels back, i can assure you .Stefan and other senior members wont be retiring here very soon

I think the FE inventor with the device holding the patent, needs to realize a few things, and the first is that the release and license (granted that he does this as an AFFORDABLE price unlike EBM) of it opens the door to all the other engineers, and devices. Once a validation is done by an independent third party,then this reproducible open sourced result can still help them. Consumer awareness and demand stops suppression, ATM no one has independently  validated OU(doesn't mean it doesn't exist) to CAPACITY, they hide and wont let you reproduce it to prove to the public, if they do (looking at steorn here) its only a LIMITED reproduction, not enough to let the cat out of the bag.

We know that letting some independently validate it  and use it, ( open sourcing it) can still get the Fe inventor or patent holder momentum.Case files where this has happened is in Gary porters EVGRAY vibrator circuit (on the panacea university site, he has a patent but still open sourced it) it has been reproduced and validated, and can be spread more.

The next one i hope will this guy hopefully, he was HELPED buy open source engineers to find his OU!
http://panacea-bocaf.org/ismaelaviso.htm

Ash

[AB Hammer]

 Patents do not stop what we want in the effects of open sourced to the public to build for ourselves, but it does stop people from stealing it and making their own companies form it. What open sourcing is like, the invention is a meat, and it gets thrown to a pack of hungry wolves (big business) and it will be devoured with nothing left for you the inventor, and they will change it a little and patent it and you won't be able to build and sell for you don't have the patent.

Big buisness loves open sourcing.

Roll Eyes Reality check!!

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

HERE here!

Also i state, ALL if not 99.9% do not know of the limitations the patent office has READY for them ONLY, being the FREE ENERGY inventor.
There is already limitations now with the patent office for FREE energy device
check the attached.

Things are slightly different TODAY, but ask Jack Hildenbrand  and read this NEW page on the subject.
http://panacea-bocaf.org/howtheywentwrong.htm
ask what would of happened if JACK at least licensed/open sourced it like Ossie Freedom.

He could of made money, he thought other wise
Now Jack Hildenbrand.is a victim to the patent office

HELLO

Ash

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

The patent system is a very clever deception.  On the surface it is a way for inventors to protect their inventions and deliver the profits to the people who deserve them.  But the underlying mechanism is to control technologies entering the market.  When the powers that be see technologies moving through the patent office that they do not want in the public domain they can stop the technologies there before they enter the public domain.  The patent system is really an insidious way of controlling technology and keeping beneficial technology out of the hands of the people that could benefit from it.  It is a very evil deception...

Blessed Be...

[utilitarian]

Howdy Y'all,

The patent system is a very clever deception.  On the surface it is a way for inventors to protect their inventions and deliver the profits to the people who deserve them.  But the underlying mechanism is to control technologies entering the market.  When the powers that be see technologies moving through the patent office that they do not want in the public domain they can stop the technologies there before they enter the public domain.  The patent system is really an insidious way of controlling technology and keeping beneficial technology out of the hands of the people that could benefit from it.  It is a very evil deception...

Blessed Be...

One question.  When is the last time you have heard of a company, any company, file a patent lawsuit to prevent someone else from manufacturing a free energy device?

Compare that to the normal amount of patent lawsuits out there.  Keep in mind how a patent lawsuit comes about:

1.  Someone is using a technology, usually to make money.
2.  Someone else says, "Aha, that technology is close to my technology"
3.  That someone else sues.

Notice how that is not happening here.