Power from repelling magnets

[ayeaye]

Attached is a photo of the off center axle (at the nut) in the attracted  position.

No i cannot tell horns or tails, sorry. You should attach a drawing or video showing how it works.

I, well, i'm into mounting tape in the experiments, and scissors, never cutting wood or whatever. Though i agree that it's doable.

Citfta, i really think that your experiment was great, for the first time a magnet device was measured. And it should work in theory too, that's the greatest. It was not the best at first, but it was a big step ahead, very important. Maybe with some improvements you can actually do it, really measure overunity. I think friction energy should be measured separately, then deleted from the output energy, which i think can only be measured static.

Honestly, if i would have to make it, i would make it cardboard tubes inside cardboard tubes, rectangular, and fixed with mounting tape. And measure only static forces. At first i would try to make it like this...

[ayeaye]

And maybe it's better to have ball bearings on both sides of the shield magnet, then it is supported on both sides, and doesn't bend that much. Just what i can figure.

[ayeaye]

It is not that i certainly don't understand the Lafonte device that Norman made. I guess that both pairs of magnets there attract each other. Then when we shift the axis a bit, it snaps easily to the opposite position. If i guess rightly. But the matter is that it is more difficult to understand what the overunity there may be caused by. Maybe it's because the force sidewise is greater than between opposing poles or something, something again maybe caused by the asymmetry of the magnetic field, it differing from the Coulomb model Also it is rather difficult to measure, first the force of shifting, and then the force of snapping. And both can happen at the same time. Maybe it can be approximated so that only one happens at a time. If i understood rightly, please correct me if i were wrong.

If there is overunity in that device, even when disregarding friction. and if it is caused by the asymmetry of the magnetic field that i talked about, then it may show that kind of asymmetry even better than anything else. I don't know how well i can show this, on the drawing below, a field somewhere near a pole in the Coulomb model, and in asymmetric field, just to give some idea.

Norman, it is difficult to measure. With so small magnets you should get force gauge. And you should measure what is friction. There shouldn't be any force, but i cannot be sure, properly friction should be measured under that force, like hanging weights to it.

[lancaIV]

ayeaye,
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3900890&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
scrolling down to :
"It is known that the force.... "
axial repulsive force  : tangential repulsive force
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm

[ayeaye]

Yes, many may have noticed it, but have not named it what it is, asymmetry of the field. If there is such, it is because atoms are not spherical either, they are electrons orbiting a nucleus. Maybe they attract side wise better, i don't know why, electron can see electron in another atom less when sidewise, maybe. The moving electrons do work, and don't lose energy.