Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"

[d3x0r]

Hello!


See, it's time's like this I wish I could really really talk to someone in-the-know.


So how much voltage is a signal from the ground?


What if I just wanted to light up a few LEDs....  with a coil plugged into the ground with a topload or base capacitor that makes the thing resemble a local AM station frequency?    If i made a few of these an through them togrether, wouldn't they work kinda like a loop antenna and help amplify the signal ?


My other idea is to just make a stupid-simple kacher, and earth ground the one side and put out a bunch of similarly tuned coils... but I was reflecting about the radio range it might be in...


I know it's not a lot of power from the AM station,  but if it flashed a few times a second it would be sufficient.

[antimony]

Hello!


See, it's time's like this I wish I could really really talk to someone in-the-know.


So how much voltage is a signal from the ground?


What if I just wanted to light up a few LEDs....  with a coil plugged into the ground with a topload or base capacitor that makes the thing resemble a local AM station frequency?    If i made a few of these an through them togrether, wouldn't they work kinda like a loop antenna and help amplify the signal ?


My other idea is to just make a stupid-simple kacher, and earth ground the one side and put out a bunch of similarly tuned coils... but I was reflecting about the radio range it might be in...


I know it's not a lot of power from the AM station,  but if it flashed a few times a second it would be sufficient.

I dont really know. I have made the earth battery/cells, and they measure at around 0.5-1 volt, but i have no idea about this one.

I have studied old style crystal radios, and radio stuff in general, and i think a kacher would be interesting to experiment with, but i think we would have had some results by now, if we (hobbyists) were able to go anywhere with it.

This is not a "overunity" oroject per se, instead a project in how to receive big signals through the earth, snd without antenna.

[d3x0r]

Yes, it's not attempting overunity   but overunity people are at least open enough to consider off the wall ideas.


And Dollard is about the only one I know of ( or could find in a search) that actually took the signal from the ground.  (Well actually I did find a guy with a tuner that used a ground pickup for VLF/LF transmissions; he was looking for submarine stuff, and got an airport 120-150 miles away.  )


but...
The other thing I just saw was someone who recently setup a tesla coil chain transmitting power through a potted plant.... and the old scientist before he went away was trying to transmit power through his outside garden; but, then he disappeared so, no idea.  Guess he found if he put more than the power input of load he couldn't get a resonant ring-up still....


so I was considering.. I've also seen tesla tower chains that were used to extend the range, so maybe I need to make more resonant receivers... then I'd have like (a similar situtation) a bunch of tuning forks with a single tone generator that should keep them all oscillating ... just need more power in than the LEDs 'burn off' when the voltage is met.


But then I was considering, if the small resonant receivers can receive that, can't I just leech off the 50kW AM stations that are nearby (sure the LEDs would flicker with the channels, but then they'd 'twinkle' and I could call that a 'feature' )

[Reiyuki]

I dont really know. I have made the earth battery/cells, and they measure at around 0.5-1 volt, but i have no idea about this one.

I have studied old style crystal radios, and radio stuff in general, and i think a kacher would be interesting to experiment with, but i think we would have had some results by now, if we (hobbyists) were able to go anywhere with it.

This is not a "overunity" project per se, instead a project in how to receive big signals through the earth, and without antenna.

The way Eric explains the phenomena and lays out his Steinmetz-derived formulas, energy production/consumption comes entirely from parametric variation of inductance/capacitance.  A dynamically changing inductance as an coil is being charged/discharged creates a discontinuity between cause and effect resulting in a hysteresis curve that is folded over itself (this overlapping portion represents synthesis/destruction depending on the phase angle).  Unfortunately these parameters are hard to wrangle as saturation, core material, frequency, Q factor, geometry, and other factors all come into play.

Ground-wave propagation and transmission of power is largely based on using the earth as a plate of a capacitor rather than a conductor.  Capacitive coupling.
Things get interesting when you consider velocities in these systems, because there is no propagation velocity in Coulomb's law.  In addition, dielectric losses through a distance might be lower than magnetic losses over a distance.

I think a lot of people get confused as there are often several different concepts involved in a single device.

[d3x0r]

Yes I had reflected on that a while too... my transmission line in this case looks like
C-L-SignalDriver
|
C-L-MC
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C-L-MC
|
C-L-MC


using just the inherant capacitance of the L really as the capacitance, there could be a mass on the top to act as a larger resivoir of space for electrons (a mass-capacitance)


where the ground is a capacitive coupling to the next coil...


vary similar to the turned circuits Dollard did that seemed to amplify the power avallalble...
In my experiments I think I didn't have as much accuracy so the slight deviations were an issue; but an interesting thing I did see in the capacitive based transmission line was that each section seemed to be charged before the source was at its peak, by a small degree each one down... although it's probably that was advanced like 350 (170?) degrees.