Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

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What is the  difference between using selective V-meter,
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559526/#msg559526
and
regular V-meter  covering the same frequency range like  e.g Ballantine 323?
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510
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Answer:
The only  difference  is that  when we use selective V-meter we can hear the sound of the signal but we pay  a lot more  for it.

Wesley

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This part will  respond to the question why and how
energy, data, video,   telephony can be send  from point   A to any point B on the surface of the earth
with use of Zenneck Wave in the  Earth/ air interface.
Bill made  comment while talking about Viziv, and Dr Corum.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/bullshit-texzon-wireless-power/msg2290227/#msg2290227

question:
What is the cavity standing wave dielectric loss of the earth?

Answer from:
Bill Beaty from University of Washington.

Down below 20KHz?   
Rule of thumb: the system-Q for the Earth's lowest resonance is commonly quoted as 8-10.   
So, any ~11Hz pulse will pass around the Earth over 8 times times before decreasing to 66%. 
(Imagine passing an AC pulse ten times across an entire a continent-wide power grid, with losses only 33%.)

Wesley's response:
cavity standing wave  refers to resonant standing waves between opposing walls of the cavity.
A cavity resonance occurs inside a conductive enclosure when energy is generated at frequencies which correspond to the resonant frequencies of the enclosure
That may be seen as  cavity between ionosphere and Earth and
distribution of electromagnetic  field in that resonant cavity.
and closest example may be your home microwave:
https://youtu.be/VR6nD6Iygso?t=95
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/cavity-resonator
https://www.laird.com/sites/default/files/2019-07/Dampening%20Cavity%20Resonance%20Using%20Absorber%20Material.pdf

In regards to Tesla Coil tilting Wave into the Complex Brewster Angle  you have made  absolutely incorrect assumption:
the standing wave must be seen as:
-distribution of electromagnetic field in a resonant cavity between Tesla Coil Top capacitor  and  partially conductive medium Earth  (dielectric is Air)- for Earth/Air  Interface.
-distribution of electromagnetic field in a resonant cavity between Tesla Coil Top capacitor  and conductive medium Aluminum foil    (dielectric is Air)  for Foil/Air  Interface
-distribution of electromagnetic field in a resonant cavity between Tesla Coil Top capacitor  and dielectric slab (another dielectric is having different dielectric properties ) for
  two different dielectric slabs interface

Q of the earth doesn't apply to Zenneck wave in the interface.
It is like talking about  inverse  square law that applies to free space but doesn't  apply to  waveguide.
And Zenneck wave exists only in the special kind of 2D waveguide known as INTERFACE
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Bill Beaty from University of Washington.

The Corums (the Tesla-phile engineers behind the Viziv tower) published an engineering analysis in the early
1990s that showed that Tesla's system would still work, even with a Q that low.

Wesley's response:
Dr Corum filed his provisional application  in 2007 describing device  utilizing Zenneck wave   in the interface.
the link you never  send us to  was from  1990 - so  this revelation can't be taken as evidence it is  about different animal.
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Bill Beaty from University of Washington.

Their main point:  when the system is in operation, the Earth's losses, (the low Q,) represents a constant loss independent
of throughput, basically a resistor parallel to the power supply.   For a large system, the loss would be ?tens? of megawatts.   
But if we keep the operating voltage always the same, then these Earth-losses remain constant, no matter how much
wattage is being drawn by the distant receivers.   Just make sure to sell gigawatt-rates of energy to customers,
if your grid losses are constant megawatts. 

Wesley's response:
Nothing that is related to electromagnetic wave in free space can be applied  to surface wave  known as Zenneck wave.
It is entirely incorrect  thinking pattern.
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Bill Beaty from University of Washington.

Tesla system isn't made of thin wires.  It's planes.The analog to "cable resistance" apparently is insignificant,
when compared to that parallel leakage in the air between the high voltage and ground.

Wesley's response:
The system of Dr Corum specifies that  distance from top capacitor to the earth  must be minimum  4x  size of that  top capacitor .
there is  no leakage  not sparks allowed . _{look at the picture
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Bill Beaty from University of Washington.

1990s Sutton/Spaniol paper from NASA where they built an unusual exotic antenna, and measured Q-values in Shumann-lines
with values of many hundreds.  Not ten!   The greater VLF research community has never accepted this. 
These results are still maverick/fringe, and like the Corum papers, banished to Tesla conference publications.

http://amasci.com/tesla/sutton.html
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5296866A/en
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19940006883.pdf
look at the picture #10
Wesley's response:
I myself was in NASA programs also as Principal Investigator. . There is to much risk and to much scrutiny to  make  unsustainable claims there.
I assume you Bill  have never  participated  in them. Money  there is insured with your own assets before you'll get a penny.
Your  ironical  criticism of Dr Corum papers  is just the matter of personal preference . I also don't care  much/ at all /about publicity nor its level.
You want fame ..?  I don't not it matters to me.
But again  you are talking about  antenna and its Q.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4548194-q-of-the-earth
Zenneck wave doesn't travel inside or above the earth . It travels inside of the earth /air  INTERFACE 2D space, fallowing curvature
of the earth.
For me you are  a great brain  having  such  deficiency in the direction you talking position about. the Zenneck Wave.
I'd appreciate if you  take your time and   view this.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=551s
prior  to expressing your opinion.
I would like to express my  respect to you and
it is my great pleasure  talking to  You.

Wesley

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_{The points marked  in color are already explained  below.
The points not marked in  color  will be explained soon}

This chapter will explain :
1 -INTERFACE,
2-types of interface ,
3-wave tilt,
4- TM mode
5-Brewster angle
6-Complex Brewster Angle
7- practical  tuning of Tesla Tower  to Complex Brewster Angle.
8-  what is a probe and why we use them.
9- impedance of INTERFACE
10- Resonance
11- STEP BY STEP instruction how to  make working test system
Wesley

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1 -INTERFACE,
_{2-types of interface ,
3-wave tilt,
4- TM mode
5-Brewster angle
6-Complex Brewster Angle
7- practical  tuning of Tesla Tower  to Complex Brewster Angle.
8-  what is a probe and why we use them.
9- impedance of INTERFACE
10- Resonance
11- STEP BY STEP instruction how to  make working test system}
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INTERFACE:
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INTERFACE is the  high speed  "highway" for Zenneck Wave to Travel.
Interface traps inside  the Electromagnetic  Wave and  allows  it to  travel only if  that wave is taking the form
suitable to travel in the INTERFACE. That form  is called - TM mode.

TM mode: Transverse magnetic waves, also called E waves are characterized by the fact that the magnetic
vector (H vector) is always perpendicular to the direction of propagation.
understanding-tem-te-and-tm-waveguide-modes


INTERFACE is a special form of waveguide that  looks like 2D space to our eyes.
Waveguide is  a structure that guides waves, such as electromagnetic waves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide

hollow conductive metal pipe used to carry high frequency radio waves, particularly microwaves.  Dielectric waveguides are used at higher radio frequencies,
and transparent dielectric waveguides and optical fibers serve as waveguides for light.
  In acoustics, air ducts and horns are used as waveguides for sound in musical instruments
and loudspeakers, and specially-shaped metal rods conduct ultrasonic waves in ultrasonic machining.

The Zenneck wave,
Zenneck surface wave or Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface wave is an inhomogeneous or non-uniform electromagnetic plane wave incident
at the complex Brewster angle onto a planar or spherical boundary interface between two homogeneous media having different dielectric constants.

Wesley

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_{1 -INTERFACE,}
2-types of interface ,
_{3-wave tilt,
4- TM mode
5-Brewster angle
6-Complex Brewster Angle
7- practical  tuning of Tesla Tower  to Complex Brewster Angle.
8-  what is a probe and why we use them.
9- impedance of INTERFACE
10- Resonance
11- STEP BY STEP instruction how to  make working test system}
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types of INTERFACE ,
Interface is seen as "two dimensional  2D" space and is always made from two  different  materials :
a- dielectric and  different  dielectric- both having different  dielectric  constants)
_{e.g
-any combination of two  dielectric slabs  such as  Teflon and  ceramics, or paper, or mica, or glass,
-or liquid over solid dielectric  such  as: Distilled water, transformer oil,
-or gas over solid dielectric
Dielectric gases such as : nitrogen, dry air, helium, (various metal oxides,) etc.
A perfect vacuum is also a dielectric.}

b- dielectric and conductive medium.
<sub>e.g
-dielectric  Air(gas) over  solid  conductor( aluminum, copper)
- solid dielectric  e.g Teflon over solid conductor e.g copper
-wire as conductive medium coated with dielectric. Goubau- Sommerfeld Line
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line
  https://www.jensign.com/wire/calc/params.html   - practical tool !!!</sub>

c-  partially  conductive medium  EARTH and  gaseous dielectric AIR.

Properties of Interface :
a.- The interface has no thickness, so it is 2 D (two-dimensional space).
In our case, the interface can be made of air touching the Earth. this means that there is no gap between this air and the earth, and this space is two-dimensional
b.- INTERFACE has certain chosen by us impedance  or naturally present  impedance in natural interface.

Wesley