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Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

Started by ramset, September 18, 2019, 09:15:01 AM

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stivep


c-  
partially  conductive medium  EARTH and  gaseous dielectric AIR.

look at post from above

Wesley

stivep

1 -INTERFACE,
2-types of interface ,
3-wave tilt,
4- TM mode
5-Brewster angle
6-Complex Brewster Angle
7- practical  tuning of Tesla Tower  to Complex Brewster Angle.
8-  what is a probe and why we use them.
9- impedance of INTERFACE
10- Resonance
11- STEP BY STEP instruction how to  make working test system

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This is the answer part A of  point 3
Add 3

Electromagnetic wave   is often seen as wave in free space.
  Radio waves have the ability to pass through the atmosphere and vacuum space.
Free Space means air, outer space, vacuum, or something similar.

Electromagnetic wave in  Free Space  suffers significant losses  due to Inverse Square Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

However Inverse Square Law doesn't apply to Waveguides:

The more accurate answer is here:
The power of the wave falls with the distance R from the source as the square of the distance (inverse square law).

However a waveguide confines the wave to propagate in one dimension, so that, under ideal conditions,
*the wave loses no power while propagating.*
Due to total reflection at the walls, waves are confined to the interior of a waveguide.
https://en.waveguide.

So in easy
but definitely not  accurate language :
when we have  10km long water pipe  on the slope all of the water  put into it must go out.
Nature pay for gravitation force  pushing it down the pipe.
Electromagnetic wave as
quantum phenomena must  move with the speed of light in  free space  or at little slower speed in  given medium.
https://sites.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/quantum_theory_waves/index.html
speed of electromagnetic waves
Wesley

stivep

This is the answer part B of  point 3
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560251/#msg560251

One of types of waveguide is the  INTERFACE
The types of INTERFACEs   are explained here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560166/#msg560166


Easy explanation:

Water:
If we want water  to flow in 10km long pipe on the  slope  we must  deliver it to this water pipe,
The pipe is the trap for that water  containing it inside and allowing it to flow in  one direction only
The energy  of that water is increasing due to gravitation force.
well..its potential energy is converted into kinetic energy.

Electromagnetic wave:
The electromagnetic wave must be delivered to waveguide or its special type - the INTERFACE, in order to propagate in it.
The waveguide  is the trap for that wave  containing it inside and allowing to flow inside.
There are  no losses in *ideal waveguide* despite its length.
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Important is how we deliver electromagnetic wave  to  the Interface and  how we prepare this wave  to be able to  travel inside of it.

Easy explanation:
Water:
Water can flow in the water pipe if it is  not frozen and diameter of the pipe is  satisfying our needs for water.
And we want water for free  from nearest waterfall.
So we make the right pipe at  the right slope

Electromagnetic wave:
INTERFACE is a type  of a Waveguide and is a trap  for electromagnetic wave.So we make the right Waveguide/INTERFACE 
or
we use the Waveguide/INTERFACE   shown to  you by some American guy  from New York USA  (name Wesley)
This waveguide  doesn't cost you any money.
But now we need to deliver the  right electromagnetic wave at right form and frequency  accepted by  this waveguide- INTERFACE .
and that will be:

-right        frequency
-
right     
phase
-
right       
polarization
-
at right
  angle
Wesley

stivep

This is the answer part C of  point 3
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560251/#msg560251


Preparing electromagnetic wave to travel in waveguide or  its special kind the INTERFACE:

If we have ready to use Interface  "We either use it or lose it."
So don't install the new shiny  transmission from the  heavy truck into small Toyota We need the right transmission   for  Toyota we already have.

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FREQUENCY:

Electromagnetic wave needs to have the  right frequency for existing  Waveguide or  one of its  forms - the Interface.
The higher the frequency the smaller in diameter the waveguide  can be, or the INTERFACE can be much different and using different materials.
We operate at very low frequencies  however Zenneck Wave works at all frequencies and  is  named differently.
Zenneck wave propagates best at ELF and VLF frequencies up to about 35 kHz, and would lose its advantage as frequency rose above that point.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tws4rev1.htm


From Wesley:
We were  working with my team at frequencies from :
52MHz.. good only for   copper or aluminum foil as conductive medium   and air  as  dielectric
1.8MHz  good  only for   water as partially conductive medium  ( some ground but short distance <5mile) and air  as  dielectric
137kHz good  only   as partially conductive medium  ( some ground but short distance <35mile) and air  as  dielectric
20kHz   good for earth as partially conductive medium  (  ground  distance unlimited) and air  as  dielectric
17.2kHz extremely good for  earth as  partially conductive medium  (  ground  distance unlimited) and air  as  dielectric


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The main group of waves of our interest is :
SURFACE WAVE

Below you have  picture of   most dominant  Surface waves that are contained inside  some sort of  Waveguide or its  special form the INTERFACE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw

Wesley

onepower

stivep
QuoteEasy explanation:
If we want water  to flow in 10km long pipe on the  slope  we must  deliver it to this water pipe,
The pipe is the trap for that water  containing it inside and allowing it to flow in  one direction only

So is with Electromagnetic wave:
The electromagnetic wave must be delivered to waveguide or its special type - the INTERFACE, in order to propagate in it.
The waveguide  is the trap for that wave  containing it inside and allowing to flow inside.

One concept missing from most modern research, more so science, relates to quality.
In fact all the greatest free energy inventors were obsessed with the properties and qualities
of things relative to other things. So much that they often ignored the physics preoccupied with
math and equations or measures of something.

I see many attempting to quantify the phenomena, Quanfity: express or measure the quantity of.
Where quality is a very different beast, Quality: the standard of something as measured against other
things of a similar kind. I found this really neat how all the successful free energy inventors had such a different perspective than most.

With respect to your water analogy quality matters. Now imagine a pipe which carries water and we know each discrete quantity
of water is attached to each other part as a continuous fluid. However Viktor Schauber claimed that by separating the whole into parts,
moving them in spiral concentric flows and adding air the fluid became discontinuous.
As such each part is no longer bound to all the others and each could move freely within certain constraints.

This is analogous to an impulsive electrical flow which is unlike most wave forms we are familiar with.
This is true because the flow is discontinuous and separate from the other parts constituting the "flow" of energy.
Can you see the difference in the qualities of the disturbance?. One is always bound to every other part as is normally
the case where a truly impulsive flow is not. Each part becomes distinct in it's own right and it is this quality
which allows it to interact with other fields and forces which may be present within the system.

Not unlike you and myself, we are unique and do not follow the same path as others. We take "the road not taken" and that has made all the difference...

Regards
AC