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[lancaIV]

https://peswiki.com/directory:nanotechnology
http://www.buch-der-synergie.de/index_englisch.html

Research & Development results from 2000 -2015

We know from experience that lab success included "scientifical peer reviewed article" publication  to endconsumer market entry needs in average 5-10 years development and organization time ( and finance capital). !
Often for lab prototypes there has also to become invented new machine production processes for micro- and mass-production scale devices. !
" Solar-/thermionic cell ": how many thousands/millions of circuits in array/network today per 10 cm x 10 cm ?
= portable " micro-grid"
From the above peswiki :
https://peswiki.com/directory:advanced-diamond-solutions-amorphous-nanostructures
           

Mined diamonds,jewelry grade,sells for                   8000 US$/ carat weight :

synthetic diamonds/ carat weight ,jewelry grade     300 US$ production costs

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-diamonds-debeers-synthetic-analysis/lab-grown-diamond-prices-slide-as-de-beers-fights-back-idUSKCN1OK0MQ

Material production costs decrease and mass-production-machinery price decrease changes the market  !
90' : Roy Kessinger : 1 Mio. motor or generator production facility costs engineering : from 250 Mio. to 25 Mio. $  !

[rakarskiy]

As they say "the next garbage" from the profile site of the Russian-speaking.     https://realstrannik.com/forum/attachment/30614   

[skywatcher]

skywatcher
I made posts with diagrams about crystal radio's which have no user input and output usable power to light an LED. I also explained how we could reduce the size and have millions of them on a circuit to produce real power. Obviously it has been proven to work for over 100 years thus your claim is false.

That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.

Free Energy devices are similar and if the device has an output then obviously the input energy must be coming from somewhere. The biggest mistake is thinking these devices "generate" power which is not true. These devices transform or convert energy already present to a more practical form we can use like electricity.   

The high output FE devices simply transform more energy faster however the working principal is the same. Energy is motion and everything in the universe is in perpetual motion on every scale, Everything is Energy as motion. Thus the only thing left to debate is the process we use to transform or convert this energy into a more usable form.

As such there is no valid debate on whether FE is real or not because we have more than enough proof it is real. Were past that, it's old news and now we should concern ourselves with finding the best transformation/conversion process.

Regards

You are right: energy can not be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another.
It's also possible to convert matter into energy, which is done by nuclear reactions.

My definition of a 'free energy' device:

- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, that means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.

[DavidWolff]

That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.


You are right: energy can not be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another.
It's also possible to convert matter into energy, which is done by nuclear reactions.

My definition of a 'free energy' device:

- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, which means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.

It can't be created so you say that you have no idea your self what's going on so you, your self so you quote some on else definition who also doesn't know how it works or who has been got at!

So consider this if the sun suddenly went out how long would it take till the earth froze over?
so what is stopping that scenario from happening now? so where is the energy coming from?

All this including you is available to be used as energy!
It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).

   

[onepower]

skywatcher

My definition of a 'free energy' device:
- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, that means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.

My definition of a free energy device is a little different based on the terminology present.
-Free, without cost or payment.
-Energy, the capacity to perform work.

So the only real requirement by definition is that the source of energy is free regardless of where it comes from. Realistically what we want is a clean, sustainable source of energy available to everyone everywhere. So if I could theoretically scavenge EM energy from any number of man made or environmental sources it's still "free energy" and it could still power my house therefore... I win.

Now some have said EM scavenging could be seen as stealing energy however this is not true. By law whomever radiates or disperses waste materials or energy into the environment no longer has any rights concerning said energy or materials. So if I build a power line nearby or an EM transmitter which radiates energy into the environment you have every right to receive and use this energy on your property. This is true because it is considered a waste product or loss to the environment and nobody owns the environment per se.

The argument of stealing is completely absurd and nonsensical because if it were true I could claim rain on your property came from the evaporation of water on my property and that I own your rain water. I could also claim that nobody's plants can absorb CO2 from the atmosphere for farming because I generated some of that CO2 burning fossil fuels. It's just absurd and has no basis in law that could ever be upheld for obvious reasons.

So all environmental energy is inherently free regardless of where it comes from because no one can claim to own the environment... it is free energy.