All Permanent Magnet Motor

[conradelektro]

WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THIS ONE. THE SECRET IS IN THE SPING ACTION OF THE WOOD SPINNER.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18h5X2sDZU

The video is from January 2017. Does anybody think he would not have developed this wonderful thing any further? If it really worked the inventor would be famous by now.

Greetings, Conrad

[magnetman12003]

Does the bolt inside the tumbler move in any way while the motor spins? The bolt will move in a circle like the whole setup (45° magnets, tumblers, phenolic blocks, heavy ring magnet), but does it move inside the tumbler in a small circle or back and forth radially?

I am thinking about the centrifugal force acting on the bolt inside the tumbler as the motor spins. A rhythmic movement of the bolts inside the tumblers while the motor is spinning would introduce some dynamics to cause the spinning.

I guess the rationale behind the tumblers is to give the rods some room for a small systematic movement while the motor is spinning?




Sorry for the cryptic sentences, but it is hard to express my thoughts about this permanent magnet motor without having all details. And I understand that magnetman12003 does not want to disclose all details. The world will grab the idea from him and many will use it to their advantage without giving him anything not even credit.

Greetings, Conrad
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The bolt itself is attracted to the 45 degree mounted block magnet.  The top of the tumbler is  the angle the bolt rests on.  I believe the bolt won't move much while the motor spins.
You will need to experiment with the bolt weight and angle it contacts the 45 degree block magnet for best results.  From what I am seeing another 45 degree angle seems best.

[vince]

Hi Magnetman,
I just completed a replication of your device that I believe covers all your specs pretty closely.
It has:


2 6" ring magnets
non magnetic stainless shaft
brass bushings
correct 45 degree angles
correct magnetic polarity as per your sketch
3/8" weight rods
aluminum weight rods guide tubes orriented at 45 degrees to magnets


My question to you is this.
Did you actually get this working or do you just assume it will work with this design?


Mine does NADA! not even a kick!


Please comment on what you believe is wrong with the replication.
PS have not tried any added weights to the rods.

[synchro1]

Hi Magnetman,
I just completed a replication of your device that I believe covers all your specs pretty closely.
It has:


2 6" ring magnets
non magnetic stainless shaft
brass bushings
correct 45 degree angles
correct magnetic polarity as per your sketch
3/8" weight rods
aluminum weight rods guide tubes orriented at 45 degrees to magnets


My question to you is this.
Did you actually get this working or do you just assume it will work with this design?


Mine does NADA! not even a kick!


Please comment on what you believe is wrong with the replication.
PS have not tried any added weights to the rods.

try directing air flow from an electric fan from where an off camera view angle would be and see if that's sufficient to create the illusion of self rotation. try and rotate it by electric fan.

[vince]

might come to that!