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[nelsonrochaa]

  Void:   You mentioned: "People have heard boys crying "wolf" here and in similar forums just too many times now over the years, and all that can be found each time,are squirrels.
A good clear working circuit demonstration is what will separate the men from the boys who cry wolf.
Just my own opinion".

   AND, my opinion, as well...   NickZ
   PS.  The problem is not a lack of interested builders,  it's the lack of true self running, OU devices to replicate. Are there any...?

NickZ:

You are free to give your opinion, but do not forget that you moderate a topic, which deals with a subject that dates back to 2012, and the fact that you and many participants limit themselves to replicating something based on palpable "nothing", may have somehow sharpened your way of looking at things.
As you say, does Overunity Circuits exist?
Are there Self Running systems?
Isn't that the same doubt that motivated you during these long years that you and many others scrutinized circuits merely in speculation and videos without have sure of nothing ?
Isn't that the same doubt that led you to replicate what you currently have on your bench?
Your morale is worth what it is based on your personal experiences, and when you say that interested builders are not lacking, this is only a relative truth, because what I have seen over the years, they are mostly theoretical and not builders.
I could count on my fingers, true builders who passed through here, and those who still resist, with their unshakable faith of achieving a positive result.
Those who run for pleasure never tire!
If you decide to participate you are welcome! You will not be censored for presenting your ideas and opinions.

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[nelsonrochaa]

Yeah what is your point ? any chance you can point me to some of your work you have from your last 10 years ?

Kind regards  Raymondo

Hi Raycathode,

I will not answer for Onepower, but I believe that some points he mentioned are sincere and factual.
I respect everyone's opinion including yours, but we are not here to discuss the work of the last 10 years of member Onepower, but the work that I proposed to present in this topic, and it does not seem appropriate for us to deviate from that path.
Grateful for your understanding.

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[Void]

Void :
I cannot completely agree with you, but I understand your point of view.
In this specific topic, and I speak only of respect for myself and my motivations, I was very clear, and my intention is to captivate people interested in the mission statement I wrote, and only those who do not expect anything in return should join together, and whatever they do is positive will always be for the benefit of the community.
For obvious reasons, the fact that someone presents something concrete helps to motivate people to participate, but we have seen them many times in this and other Forums, people sometimes cross the limit of reasonable, no one are in a position to demand When someone willingly tries to present or share something without asking for anything in return.
Myself, I have daily work, I have family, and all the time I dedicate to this topic will be in exchange for nothing, and only those who genuinely want to help me, and have consideration and respect for my work, will be welcome, I will not be available for singular and personal requirements.

I agree with you  on the point that you refer, that if someone genuinely wants to share it will not put any barrier to show that it really has a positive result by measurements and scrutiny;  in my opinion this is the main point of Open-source, and that will be my intention, whether the result is positive or not.
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Dear Nelson,
As I mentioned, I wasn't speaking about you specifically. Just pointing out in general that if someone (anyone) does a clear demonstration of the concept
they are referring to, it will go a long way to help people see if there might be something potentially interesting or not to investigate further. I also of course
did not make any demands on anyone. :-) It was just a suggestion. Just my opinion. Talk about it and they may fall asleep.
Build it and they will come.

Regarding Tesla's pancake coil design, it will store more energy than a regular coil due to its increased inherent capacitance,
but that in itself does not suggest over unity potential. For there to be over unity, there must be a means to draw in (or release)
energy from outside a given circuit's energy source, whatever components may be used in that circuit. Nature can't be fooled.
Extra energy is either drawn in or released by some given circuit configuration or it isn't.

To see a chance at over unity (COP > 1),  we must find a way to draw in energy (or release energy) from outside our circuit's 
energy source (batteries, etc.) into our circuit. There should be no other way to achieve a COP > 1.
This is why most OU schemes are doomed to failure. There is no means in most schemes to draw in or release that extra energy.
Given this, special coil windings or transformer windings are not likely going to produce OU, unless perhaps if their special design
has some special means to draw in or release energy into the circuit.
A few words for people to fall asleep to. That is not meant to criticize anyone or discourage experimentation at all. Just meant to
get people thinking more practically about how OU may possibly be achieved.

All the best...

[EMJunkie]

Hi Nelson,

IMO, if someone wants people to join in and experiment with them on some circuit idea, it would really help to
show a working experimental setup demonstration first, in some sort of clear way; and, if it is not self-looped, then show
what measurements they are doing so people can get an idea how the circuit may actually be performing.
If such a circuit demonstration shows real promise, other people likely will join in and start experimenting as well.

If someone just posts some theoretical ideas and shows no practical and clear working circuit demonstration, it is much less
likely other people will show much interest in 'building' and experimenting. I know in your case you said you are
waiting to get some equipment, but I am just commenting in general. If there is no reasonable demonstration presented right from
the start which stands up to reasonable scrutiny, then it is not so likely many people will show much interest.
People have heard boys crying "wolf" here and in similar forums just too many times now over the years, and all that can be found each
time are squirrels. A good clear working circuit demonstration is what will separate the men from the boys who cry wolf.
Just my own opinion. 

If all the full details of making a claimed COP > 1 circuit are 'secret to an elite group' as Chris has stated,
then why is that person posting here in an 'open source' forum in the first place? It should be a no-brainer that not many
people are likely to start experimenting if full details of the claimed 'working' circuit are secret and no
reasonable circuit demonstration is presented

All the best...

Sounds like a very lazy post here Void!

Secret, you make me laugh! Tell me where the Secrets lay, here?

The thing is, most of you here have earned yourselves a bad name, no one wants to give you an open door to attack, see the dilemma!

I have given you all Freely, with Zero Secrets, the Circuit, the Geometrical Configuration, the Waveform's to aim for, and 11 videos to study - Not one of you lazy people have taken on the task!

My Forum Members are so successful because:

   1: They study Hard without Complaining!
   2: They Experiment hard without Complaining!
   3: They make improvements very quickly without Complaining!


The experiment you mention, COP > 4, is based exactly on my work, using a circuit with only a few minor changes to the one I posted here. But the Lazy People here would never know this, because they are too lazy to Learn and do the work!

What a shame, you harass Nelson, after he has been showing for years Machines that show how wrong you people are! He has shared many hundreds of videos with you all, all working machines! What did I say some 5 odd years ago: "A Video Demonstration will not help you", Hmmm. All of you Fizzing up at the Bung, now Nelson is here trying to guide you, you make demand after demand of him with nothing in return! Nelson owes you nothing!

Nelson is not being paid to be here to help you - Yet you feel your'e all so extremely important that you should get a personalised lesson, fully working machine plans, and everything else you demand with it - Makes me sick! Chet please get your peepz in line! This behaviour is disgusting!


@Nelson - Please feel free to delete this post, it really helps no one, just outlines how lazy and self-entitled these people really are, which I have already seen majority of already!

I wish you luck Nelson, you have a tough crowd, they are not bothering me, they know I am not here to put up with this sort of non-sense! Don't forget, you are the Moderator, sometimes some tough love makes for a healthier more motivated working environment that others can be confident working in!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,
   Chris Sykes

[EMJunkie]

Void :
I cannot completely agree with you, but I understand your point of view.
In this specific topic, and I speak only of respect for myself and my motivations, I was very clear, and my intention is to captivate people interested in the mission statement I wrote, and only those who do not expect anything in return should join together, and whatever they do is positive will always be for the benefit of the community.
For obvious reasons, the fact that someone presents something concrete helps to motivate people to participate, but we have seen them many times in this and other Forums, people sometimes cross the limit of reasonable, no one are in a position to demand When someone willingly tries to present or share something without asking for anything in return.
Myself, I have daily work, I have family, and all the time I dedicate to this topic will be in exchange for nothing, and only those who genuinely want to help me, and have consideration and respect for my work, will be welcome, I will not be available for singular and personal requirements.

I agree with you  on the point that you refer, that if someone genuinely wants to share it will not put any barrier to show that it really has a positive result by measurements and scrutiny;  in my opinion this is the main point of Open-source, and that will be my intention, whether the result is positive or not.
Welcome to this topic

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Nelson Rocha

@Nelson, a very careful reply, in a very political arena!

When people make that choice to engage this topic, the topic of Energy Research, the educated ones, the people that are smart and see where the Facts have been laid out, with experimental proof, these ones with a Hunger to succeed, will succeed.

Just one example:

Guys, I have a proposal for anyone that is honest and interested.
Please put this statement into your mind without any doubts: The device works on the exact principles Chris shared.

Now please go to the workbench and don't quit until you make it work! There are 2 choices to succeed: be smart and do it fast or be stubborn (like me) and do it by failing many times first. Either one works.

Try to focus on those people.

Independent replication, individual confirmation, speaks louder than any buffoon yelling Secrets from some roof top! There are always going to be Un-Educated Buffoons with plenty to say with Zero Experience!

There will be a large number of readers just to lazy to get an Experiment started, so ignore these types. You know the path forward, so on your thread, where you are the Moderator, you moderate as needed!

You have control here, don't let others control the direction of your thread!

Best wishes, stay safe and well My Friend,
   Chris Sykes