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[nelsonrochaa]

Dear Nelson,
As I mentioned, I wasn't speaking about you specifically. Just pointing out in general that if someone (anyone) does a clear demonstration of the concept
they are referring to, it will go a long way to help people see if there might be something potentially interesting or not to investigate further. I also of course
did not make any demands on anyone. :-) It was just a suggestion. Just my opinion. Talk about it and they may fall asleep.
Build it and they will come.

Regarding Tesla's pancake coil design, it will store more energy than a regular coil due to its increased inherent capacitance,
but that in itself does not suggest over unity potential. For there to be over unity, there must be a means to draw in (or release)
energy from outside a given circuit's energy source, whatever components may be used in that circuit. Nature can't be fooled.
Extra energy is either drawn in or released by some given circuit configuration or it isn't.

To see a chance at over unity (COP > 1),  we must find a way to draw in energy (or release energy) from outside our circuit's 
energy source (batteries, etc.) into our circuit. There should be no other way to achieve a COP > 1.
This is why most OU schemes are doomed to failure. There is no means in most schemes to draw in or release that extra energy.
Given this, special coil windings or transformer windings are not likely going to produce OU, unless perhaps if their special design
has some special means to draw in or release energy into the circuit.
A few words for people to fall asleep to. That is not meant to criticize anyone or discourage experimentation at all. Just meant to
get people thinking more practically about how OU may possibly be achieved.

All the best...

Hi Void ,
I know you weren't talking about me specifically, just as I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general terms, and I respect your opinion and that of everyone even when I disagree.

Regarding your answer about pancake coils:

I'm not sure that you downloaded my mission state pdf on the first page, but if you didn't, you could see that I was clear about the initial objective of this project.

"My intention in returning to this subject is related to the fact that I have done some experiments in the past with a specific oscillator that I develop some years ago , having obtained interesting results with some practical applications like a resonant dielectric  transformer-inverter, with good results.

I would not like to make any kind of claim in particular way , but rather, to develop something practical and a functional system that could be used in favor of the community and documented to be replicated  more easily by the Community users, and in the end , evaluate the efficiency of system with correct measurements,  and that is the main goal of this topic ."

I think I was clear on the highlights, do we agree?
At this point, this is only my goal, and if I defrauded someone even before I started, accept my apologies.
As you mentioned, Nature can't be fooled, but people can be fooled by their Nature.
At no time did I feel that you or anyone could discourage me from this goal, even when some words connote bad energies of disappointment and frustration.
Life has taught me that these are the easiest points to deal with in life, and in the times that we go through the whole union is beneficial for everyone.
You will always be welcome when you want to participate in a constructive and collaborative way.
Thank you for your opinion.

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Nelson Rocha

[Void]

Hi Void ,
I know you weren't talking about me specifically, just as I wasn't talking about you specifically but in general terms, and I respect your opinion and that of everyone even when I disagree.

Regarding your answer about pancake coils:

I'm not sure that you downloaded my mission state pdf on the first page, but if you didn't, you could see that I was clear about the initial objective of this project.

"My intention in returning to this subject is related to the fact that I have done some experiments in the past with a specific oscillator that I develop some years ago , having obtained interesting results with some practical applications like a resonant dielectric  transformer-inverter, with good results.

I would not like to make any kind of claim in particular way , but rather, to develop something practical and a functional system that could be used in favor of the community and documented to be replicated  more easily by the Community users, and in the end , evaluate the efficiency of system with correct measurements,  and that is the main goal of this topic ."

I think I was clear on the highlights, do we agree?
At this point, this is only my goal, and if I defrauded someone even before I started, accept my apologies.
As you mentioned, Nature can't be fooled, but people can be fooled by their Nature.
At no time did I feel that you or anyone could discourage me from this goal, even when some words connote bad energies of disappointment and frustration.
Life has taught me that these are the easiest points to deal with in life, and in the times that we go through the whole union is beneficial for everyone.
You will always be welcome when you want to participate in a constructive and collaborative way.
Thank you for your opinion.

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Nelson Rocha

Hi Nelson,

It seems you are not understanding me. I just gave my own personal point of view on Tesla's pancake coil design
and on other coil and transformer winding approaches. What I said comes from many years of experimenting. I made no
statements about your intentions with this thread, so I don't follow you at all. It seems you really do not like honest input
and feedback, so I will keep my views to myself. No worries.
All the best..

[nelsonrochaa]

  EMJunkie:  To answer your question, no, I never replicated any of Kapanadze's devices. Nor will I, as he has not open sourced any of his projects. Nor has anyone else been able to replicate any of his devices, as yet.
  I replicated an earlier Stalker schematic and device, that has clear videos, schematics, and full explanations. And that is what I still have on hand. But, I will not waste more time on something that is not clearly showing all the details. Unless...there is some hope that there is a useful and practical purpose to do so. Yes, I have become kind of like Hoppy was, a bit skeptical after all these years.
  Nelson: Please forgive me if I sound confused, but, do you have a self running device (like the one you showed on youtube), or not? I ask because you mentioned that it is not self running. Can you clear that up for me. And if so, why are you looking into other circuits. As your self running device, is the only thing on this whole forum, that self runs. But, you don't want to discuss it?  Correct?
  All I'm really into, are solid state self runners. But, I am an electronic assembler, not an inventor. Like you.
  In anycase,  as you are asking for help, IF, I can be of help to you, con mucho gusto.
                                                                       NickZ

Hi Nick

At this moment I have absolutely no circuit in my possession, as they were "retained" by the investor who financed the entire project in which I participated in the last years in German .
Regarding the circuit you are talking about, and I am conditioned by a legal agreement to give you details , I already had the opportunity to refer to some elements of this forum that it is not a self-run system but rather self-feedback;
the idea of this system was that it could be used in electric vehicles (Daimler), as a way of using and recycling energy efficiently, using high density supercaps that store a portion of recovered energy, unified in a loop, That processes feedback to the circuit.
It is an interesting process but not overunity.
I hope you have clarified your doubt.
I will be very happy to count on your participation.

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Nelson Rocha

[nelsonrochaa]

Hi Nelson,

It seems you are not understanding me. I just gave my own personal point of view on Tesla's pancake coil design
and on other coil and transformer winding approaches. What I said comes from many years of experimenting. I made no
statements about your intentions with this thread, so I don't follow you at all. It seems you really do not like honest input
and feedback, so I will keep my views to myself. No worries.
All the best..

Hi Void ,
I understand you very well, but definitely, you unfortunately did not understand me and my answer.
I stressed one of the points, in highlight in my mission state, and you can find some more  interesting info that i mention about pancake coils, namely questions related to their particular characteristics, where you yourself, pointed out one of them.
why wouldn't I like to receive honest opinions? Otherwise, why would I be here trying to involve the community and share my time and experience in this field ?
I'm not worried about your feedback or anyone else's, as it will be welcomed as another opinion, and I hope you continue to share your thoughts,but I feel some discomfort in your words, and I don't understand why.
Perhaps you can enlighten me, and all those who read this topic, where you felt conditioned, as your opinion for my person.
As I said earlier, the objective of this topic is not to promote division but to bring together all the participants,  but being as honest as possible, it seems to me that you are putting yourself aside, and that is not what is intended.
As I told you and I will repeat again, you are very welcome if you want to convey your opinions and thoughts, as long as you are comfortable to do so.

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Nelson Rocha

[nelsonrochaa]

Hi ,

Chris ,
I understand, some of the less positive points that may have happened in the past, but it is time to leave some of those points in the past and well buried, as we need all the unity in these times of Disgrace.
I would be glad, that everyone could have a friendly coexistence, where everyone could take up their arguments, without becoming a stage of resentments and bad energies.
Once again if you need any support in your work, I will be available to help, as I hope that there are points on this topic that can also involve you in future.
Many thanks Chris .

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Nelson Rocha