Swiss clockmasters and perpetual movement...

[iacob alex]

.....at : https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/june-perpetual-movement-clock-jean-and-david-geiser.51184/
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[Turbo]

Hi Jacob the wheel is essentially nothing more then a scale.
You can slide the weights and then the horizontal lever will change it's angle but it won't magically power itself.
I think however that there is something possible when one of the weights is made to swing back and forth or so it appears from a design from a Croatian inventor (Milkovic) this is the basic principle which needs to be put into rotation and i can imagine this can be done like in a bicycle wheel where one part of the cycle is in free fall while the other part of the cycle's energy is stored in the (fly)wheel.

[Turbo]

I made a drawing because i can't really express myself in words.
But the essential part is not in sliding weights on the lever, because that just will change the horizontal angle like a scales.
In stead you move the lever itself.

Now something new is introduced.
When you slide the lever the weight will want to stay in place at first.
So you can slide the lever back and forth, while the weight remains in place if the frequency and amplitude of the driving coil is just right.
That is the exact opposite of sliding the (fixed) weights over the lever.

Now about that new phenomena.
If you slide the lever, the weight will stay in place in the beginning. but when the lever itself stopped, you can witness the moment of (inertia) on the weight because it needs to re-balance itself to re-establish equilibrium.
This mechanism can be used for something.

If the frequency and amplitude on the coil is right it is possible to drive the weight into a full rotation.
 

[i_ron]

Hi Turbo,


You might be interested in a little experiment I did?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9P3Rh3Q_gI


Ron

[lancaIV]

searchmachine,wikipedia  : Kuckucksuhr [ with  (Tannen-)Zapfen=weights ]
                         
                        and seconds :  Unruh ( clock  " resonator "/fether)

Clearly related : " in uno omnia  " by Athanasius Kircher(us) Fuldensis

Sincerely
OCWL