Lords of the Ring

[Mannix]

@bolt

exactly right and the heat and other wasteful energy dissapation effects produced by the device must be reduced and therefore the amount of energy consumed, and after all we need to reduce the input power as much as possible.

acerzw, researcher

points of interest worth recapping
some old some new, all well sourced
When the correct point is found,there will be no shadow of  doubt as to extra energy...your problem will be preventing runaway/smoke up.
You are not trying to use low current but just enough to start the collection/feeding process.

Your ss circuits are not designed to handle the extra  and will either blow up, shut down, or become unstable.

cop calculation does not apply to it in any way because the source comes from the environment.....out side the tpu ...
"they are not free energy devices"

The black coil that went for a walk was capable of over 12 amps at 120v for short periods but was unstable due to the run on effect when disconnecting the load ..a problem that was not ever fixed as far as i know. overloading the units would cause their destruction by atmospheric discharge.

as a load is applied the speed would increase almost instantly to meet the load..slowing it down was still a problem, thats in the advanced units ...not what you could hope to achieve at the first attempts.perhaps later. Heat generation was not a byproduct of load just an artifact of the device running.
The more heat generated the safer it is..the less chance of runaway so heat is good for now
I hope that this helps with the jigsaw a bit..if you get enough things right and see some inertia or movement "stop and be safe"

keep in mind the advanced "no battery" units here even if it was a small cap!

Having a small radio off station 20 feet away will be usefull to hear the run up

now get to work! L.O.L.

[bolt]

Mannix what is percieved to be the correct 3 coils configuration for the collector after all these posts? Where do the ends of these coils go to? The control and overlay windings are fairly straightforward so not important at this time. A pretty picture of schematic would be nice.

[z_p_e]

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[Mannix]

Mannix what is percieved to be the correct 3 coils configuration for the collector after all these posts? Where do the ends of these coils go to? The control and overlay windings are fairly straightforward so not important at this time. A pretty picture of schematic would be nice.

I think that the ends of the collectors are the power take off pulsed 5khz dc but used as a sync as well..
nothing drastic will happen until the right combination of pure frequencies.

I agree a picture ... perhaps one will become available..i would not count on it.  it is a challenge ..but if enough are working with the right things in mind i am  optimistic that we wont need one.
The point of difference now  is that people are finally getting the importance of sine wave..and harmonic perfection...thank you for that.

somebody might want to suggest a starting point to work from, Em has done a lot with blocking oscillators.

[Thaelin]

Hi all:
   Not sure the underline worked for sure but it is around the "full wave silicon circuit" part. I keep comming back to this part of the discussion over and over again. No one has mentioned this it seems. As I read back, no comment. Why would he run it through a  full wave bridge first???. That is what the tube is supposed to do. The tube would then be redundant. I pulled out my old '59 ARRL and looked up the very circuit in a receiver and no FWB anywhere to be found. Still puts out the required plate voltage. But ..... Since some of you have the circuit in use, any way to check it?  Comment from BEP here possible?  Just has me perplexed as to why this would be put in a tube circuit.

thaelin

bit more

"I have taken a high voltage power supply as follows:
500 v-0-500 v 300 mV plate transformer run it through a full wave silicon circuit then run it through a 5U4 electron tube rectifier.
Now you know that the 5U4 requires 5 volts AC at 3 amps for its heater to gather the electrons and complete the circuit.
Well, I measured the output from the tube and the result is 500 volts DC at 250 mV.
The loss is due to the high impedance of the tube and its limited ability to dissipate more than 250 mA..
The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current!"