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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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bolt

Mmm i never read that before not that it changes where i heading but that snippet is not in the master doc with all of SM's comments. If everything he ever said was pooled in one place it would expedite the entire process and prevent anyone new having to read through the entire forum. So the question is where is the most current up to date document of SM's comments?

turbo

Quote from: bolt on September 13, 2007, 02:45:12 PM

Show me a math example i want 7.5 hz what do i actually need for the 2 frequencies?.


this would depend on your point of view, regeneration or hythrodyne or superhytrodyne and there are several techniques more.
normally we have the "center frequency" or "beat frequency" which is being mixed with the two other waves ,the "carrier" wave and the "lf audio" wave.
then the signal is being rectified,hf filterd out, low pass filter, decoupling caps, and smoothed to give a close replication of the "audio" component which is being transmitted by the transmitter.
however in the regeneration process this is diffrent, here we see a wave from an local oscillator which constantly cycles the recieving device be it a tube or a transistor ,at a high speed above human perception audio frequency (supersonic,ultrasonic,when it is below it is infrasonic or subsonic),and this moves the sensetivity for example 35.000 times a second between maximum sensitivity and actual generation of a radio wave from the reciever,which is why these kind of recievers put out a lot of noise when they are at the point of generating,it becomes a transmitter.
this way we and up with a chopped to pieces, but very usable output wave to work with ,and these types are known to be the most sensitive of them all.
it is also possible to add a hf stage to decouple the actual generation of rf waves, but i do not think this relates to the TPU as i believe we want to see this disruptive interference.

i will write some more tomorrow.
Marco.



EMdevices

Oh I forgot to mention,

We need a NONLINEAR medium for mixing to happen, and bytheway, mixing means  MULTIPLICATION not SUMMATION.

(as in:       A1 cos(2pi f1 t)  x  A2 cos(2pi f2 t)  =   (A1 A2)/2 [ cos(2pi(f1-f2)t) + cos(2pi(f1+f2)t) ]  )



How can we get a NONLINEAR medium?

How about a ferrite ring, is that nonlinear?    Well, for small signals it's quite linear, but for large signals, it  might not.

So if we DC bias the ferite core and move it close to saturation we can get it to be more nonlinear, and then we can use it as a mixer.
Is that what SM is doing?    And remember he doesn't have to have an antenna to capture the schumann frequency, it's in the toroid, the toroid captures it, it is the antenna.

EM

bolt

EMdevices trust me this is 90% of how it works and if you don't know why we need 7.5 as an output you haven't done your homework on tesla stuff but its absolutely fascinating why this works.

I'm glad you're pushing for this again bolt,  we did discuss it however.

We can use a number of frequencies, for example

f1 = 10,007.3 Hz
f2 = 10,000.0 Hz

Mix them and you get  a sum and difference (plus other harmonics but in practice  filters take those out including one of the images)

Excellent so you picked 2 frequencies at random yet you got the same result. This is what i was waiting for. Now then i can pick any 2 frequencies that are in the practical of the working range of the device and i still get 7.5 hz do you agree?

turbo

the example you just mentioned is the hetrodyne prinicple.
this occurs for example when two engines are running next to each other and one is running slightly faster, or when two close tones are hit on a piano, this will produce a "knocking" sound at the diffrence frequency between the two others.

the mentioned frequency's Steven talked about can be in a 7.x relationship to each other:
7,x times 5000  = 35000
7.x times 35000 = 245000

but if i look at it that way, i would choose the regeneration principle, not the hetro or superhetrodyne principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit

M.