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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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bolt

yes grumpy a mixer but regardless of 100 times before i bet 99 times was talking about square waves. So  now we are mixing, what frequencies do i need to make 7.5 Hz and why can i not just squirt 7.5 straight in and have done with it? Show me a math example i want 7.5 hz what do i actually need for the 2 frequencies?.

Yes GK but dont worry about phase or direction at the mo your very close.

giantkiller

So if one has 2 freqs in the same direction heterdyning to 7.3hz then because of the phase diff in the original 2 freqs the 7.3hz would be spinning.
So we direct the 2 base freqs cw and the heterdyne would be ccw. Or vice versa.

Like a Moire' pattern. The heterodyne sums with the Earth's field.

As the sum collapses it crosses the coil pushing energy back into the coil. The Earth is now at a point where it and the coil are inductively coupled.

--giantkiller.

Gothic

Abstract. Application of a steady magnetic field allows sum-frequency radiation generated via dipole-forbidden mixing of two-colour fields in an atomic medium to be emitted in the (otherwise forbidden) forward direction. As a result of resonance tuning at low-field strength (not exceeding 0.1 T) a fourth-order magnetic-dipole-induced amplitude for the sum-frequency process can be made comparable to the third-order field-free amplitude. We show that the interference between different terms of the field-dependent amplitude may cause the circular dichroism of the forward-scattering cross section for one of the two incident waves or the sum-frequency wave when the other two waves are linearly polarized. The dichroism effect is due to the dissipation processes determined by the resonant level width Γ and depends strongly both on Γ and the resonance detuning Δ. The effect may be used to control the frequency conversion process or to make possible a frequency mixing laser spectroscopy of excited atomic levels.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1067539

http://dml.riken.jp/pub/nori/particles.html

Grumpy

How do you know that a rotating magnetic field does not entrain the earth's field (and it's frequency components)?  You know - like the "focusing of power" that SM mentioned in his letter about the TV explosion.

SM stated very clearly in a message that:

Quote
YES THERE IS A ROTATING FEILD WHICH CAUSES ELECTRONS TO FLOW IN COPPER WIRE AND BE USED TO
PROVIDE USEFULL WORK FORCE. THERE ARE MANY WIRES PERPINDICULAR TO THE MAIN
COLLECTOR.(Control coils) THIS IS A NECESSARY PART OF THE DEVICE.

SINCERELY,

SM.

and should anyone ahve further doubts about the necessity of a rotating magnetic field:

QuoteIt is really great to see more "hands on" activity here. It may be relevant to convey the importance of the relationship
between the resonances/wire lengths of the control/collector coils. I think of it a a rotational magnetic reciever. Some of
the tests that I have carried on the coiols that have visible control windings indicate frequencies in the megahertz range
which would make pc scopes un usable ...I could be wrong...we will see. We are Searching for a rotational Kicking
field.that can be accelerated by applying harmonics
This could take a while. It is unconventional. Sharing results..even
failures will help every body. Sharing limitations will slow everybody down. It would be great if more those who seem to
have a clear understanding would do some winding to confirm their expectations. Perhaps Luck will come into it I
remember a fellow who said "The more I work and act the more luck I seem to get"

Sine waves can create a rotating magnetic field.  ;)
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

EMdevices

I'm glad you're pushing for this again bolt,Ã,  we did discuss it however.

We can use a number of frequencies, for example

f1 = 10,007.3 Hz
f2 = 10,000.0 Hz

Mix them and you getÃ,  a sum and difference (plus other harmonics but in practiceÃ,  filters take those out including one of the images)

But if we assume no filter and no higher IP3 products we get:Ã,  Ã, 

f3 = 10007.3 - 10000 = 7.3Ã,   ahaaaa,Ã,  and
f4 10,007.3 + 10,000 = 20,007.3Ã,  boooo

Then the 7.3 Hz created frequency will mix once again with the Earth's natural 7.3 Hz frequency and produce

f5 = 7.3 - 7.3 = 0Ã,   DCÃ,   (what we want)
f6 = 7.3+7.3 = 14.6Ã, 
f7, f8, f9 , .... (more mixer products exist as well)

However,
SM talked about a rotating magnetic field that intersects the many vertical wiresÃ,   He He HeÃ,  Grumpy is right!!  :)

So I doubt it's a heterodyning principle/antenna, but it could be, who knows.Ã, 

EM