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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Bruce_TPU

@ GK
Well said!  Well spoken!  I feared some had forgotten that SM was specific about three frequencies.  One is fun, two is danger, three is power! :)   And folks are excited about just one frequency!  LOL

@everyone
As you all know by now, I still believe there will be a ryme or reason to the frequencies chosen. 
1=resonant
2=harmonic
3=intermodulation    This is my thoughts, and we will see if they proof out.  Either way, keep it in your minds to give you something to experiment with.  Jason also has some very interesting ideas about the three frequencies and resonance.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

weri812

hi gk

have you fired up your big mac yet ?
if yes  how did it work 

@bruce

question?

by tuneing the third freq  up and down  would it incress pow er and decress power ?

wer
PUT YOUR MIND IN GEAR BEFORE  YOU PUT YOUR MOUTH IN MOTION

giantkiller

Here is the mechanical start of my driver board. Only three drivers are needed but I want to make it with four fets to include a switchable h-bridge configuration for future options. Gonna try anyway. Not mandatory.

Two 556s, one max621, four irf840s. All 12v operation. Blue terminal blocks for all connections. Fets in little sockets. And one 12v fan.

I have gone a little slow this session. Wanted to make sure of a precise,semi tight fit. Soldering next session. There is a 7805 on board in case i need one.

--giantkiller.

Thedane

Quote from: giantkiller on June 16, 2007, 03:44:21 AM
I have gone a little slow this session. Wanted to make sure of a precise,semi tight fit. Soldering next session. There is a 7805 on board in case i need one.

--giantkiller.

Hi giantkiller

I've been designing a mosfet driver pcb for testing purposes.
I'm using the MC33151 driver chip (We use them at work  :D)

In the datasheet: http://www.chipcatalog.com/Datasheet/3BE1EB3D09E88BB88DC3414BAA767550.htm

it says:
Do not attempt to construct the driver circuit on
wire?wrap or plug?in prototype boards.
When driving
large capacitive loads, the printed circuit board must contain
a low inductance ground plane to minimize the voltage spikes
induced by the high ground ripple currents. All high current
loops should be kept as short as possible using heavy copper
runs to provide a low impedance high frequency path. For
optimum drive performance, it is recommended that the
initial circuit design contains dual power supply bypass
capacitors connected with short leads as close to the VCC pin
and ground as the layout will permit. Suggested capacitors are
a low inductance 0.1 mF ceramic in parallel with a 4.7 mF
tantalum. Additional bypass capacitors may be required
depending upon Drive Output loading and circuit layout.
Proper printed circuit board layout is extremely
critical and cannot be over emphasized.


I would think this goes for the max621 as well, though it says nothing about it in its datasheet.

Good luck on the project  :)
Egon

eldarion

Quote from: Thedane on June 16, 2007, 04:11:53 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on June 16, 2007, 03:44:21 AM
I have gone a little slow this session. Wanted to make sure of a precise,semi tight fit. Soldering next session. There is a 7805 on board in case i need one.

--giantkiller.

Hi giantkiller

I've been designing a mosfet driver pcb for testing purposes.
I'm using the MC33151 driver chip (We use them at work  :D)

In the datasheet: http://www.chipcatalog.com/Datasheet/3BE1EB3D09E88BB88DC3414BAA767550.htm

it says:
Do not attempt to construct the driver circuit on
wire?wrap or plug?in prototype boards.
When driving
large capacitive loads, the printed circuit board must contain
a low inductance ground plane to minimize the voltage spikes
induced by the high ground ripple currents. All high current
loops should be kept as short as possible using heavy copper
runs to provide a low impedance high frequency path. For
optimum drive performance, it is recommended that the
initial circuit design contains dual power supply bypass
capacitors connected with short leads as close to the VCC pin
and ground as the layout will permit. Suggested capacitors are
a low inductance 0.1 mF ceramic in parallel with a 4.7 mF
tantalum. Additional bypass capacitors may be required
depending upon Drive Output loading and circuit layout.
Proper printed circuit board layout is extremely
critical and cannot be over emphasized.


I would think this goes for the max621 as well, though it says nothing about it in its datasheet.

Good luck on the project  :)
Egon

GK,

I have been using the HIP4081AIP MOSFET driver on a scrap of perfboard for some time now with no issues.  You might want to use it; I haven't blown up a single one and the MOSFETs are driven cleanly with fast rise/fall times.

Egon is right about the max261 / ucc32321 series chips.  I tried prototyping with them and blew up my entire stock save one.  That last one I installed 5 bypass capacitors directly on the power leads, including a large electrolytic.  Trust me, it is a pain! :)

Hope this helps,

Eldarion
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