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Acoustical feedback energy system

Started by aleks, December 10, 2020, 11:00:51 AM

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aleks

I'm not looking for comments much, what I'm really looking for are experiments of similar nature - opposing loudspeakers. There's nothing to talk about ATM, because it seems I was among the first to test the thing and find out an interesting energetic effect it creates. In the recently posted image I've tried to pinpoint the source of the effect. But nobody gets the point it seems, because nobody has ventured into this. It's an electro-acoustical effect, it cannot be described just via knowledge of electrical schemes.


weslie, tell me where the energy of electrostatic field goes when Tesla coil (toroidal) capacitor discharges in vacuum as corona.


As for USA supremacy and its "rightfulness", USA is done. Energy business worldwide is likely done, too. Sticking to theory can be detrimental to understanding the state-of-the-art. I may not be good at teaching, but I'm pointing to things an educated person usually misses. Admittedly, electrical engineering is not where I'm master at, but I have great achievements in other fields.


By the way, overpopulation is a myth - developed countries struggle with aging population. Food shortages are caused by American oligarchs pretending to be rightful entrepreneurs, especially those who strive to patent everything. Nobody can patent a possible natural effect caused by the proposed opposition of speakers. You can patent an overengineered construct based on this, but not the ground truth, at least related to this effect. Energy business collapse is not due to this device, but more like from devices like Liberty Engine 2, because it already runs and is easy enough to replicate. Theory, beliefs, and american corporate/banker interests just do not allow you to believe it.

stivep

Quote from: aleks on April 29, 2023, 12:58:49 PM
I'm really looking for are experiments of similar nature - opposing loudspeakers.
//and find out an interesting energetic effect it creates.
It's an electro-acoustical effect, it cannot be described just via knowledge of electrical schemes.
I do thank you for  your comment.
I'm like a computer - when  you try to perform  to many functions  at once,
you don't have expected  response due to rejection  of certain commands
I will try to work with you  to get to  the bottom of it.

Can you tell me:
1. what was the frequency of the  sine wave you tested  your speakers with? 
2. I assume sound card was internally connected to motherboard port ISA, VESA,( till year 95) Windows
    or PCI  widows XP or or in time of your experiment  in year 2012 PCIe port (windows 7/8) of your computer right ?
3. This computer was powered  from 220V  single phase right?

Wesley

stivep

Quote from: aleks on April 29, 2023, 12:58:49 PM
weslie, tell me where the energy of electrostatic field goes when Tesla coil (toroidal) capacitor discharges in vacuum as corona.
Explanation for  an average reader:
Tesla coil is a type of resonant transformer.
"loosely" coupled, with the primary and secondary typically sharing only 10-20% of their respective magnetic fields and instead the coil transfers energy (via loose coupling)
from one oscillating resonant circuit (the primary) to the other (the secondary) over a number of RF cycles.
Tesla coil can transfer over 85% of the energy initially stored in the primary capacitor to the secondary circuit.
Thus the voltage gain of a disruptive Tesla coil can be significantly greater than a conventional transformer,
because of the large gap between the primary and secondary that loose coupling makes possible, the insulation between the two is far less likely to break down,
and this permits coils to run extremely high voltages without damage.
Large Tesla coil often operates at very high peak power levels, up to many megawatts (millions of watts).
Tesla coil discharges are formed as a result of displacement currents as pulses of electrical charge are rapidly transferred between the high voltage toroid
and nearby regions within the air (called space charge regions).

more of it is here: https://www.ukessays.com/essays/engineering/structure-and-applications-of-tesla-coil-engineering-essay.php
A.
Now explanation from me:
Air is dielectric it stores the charge
when a dielectric is inserted in a charged capacitor
connected to a power supply), the electric field would be
decreased and so would the voltage 


B.
When a dielectric is inserted into a charged capacitor, the
dielectric is polarized by the field. The electric field from the
dielectric will partially cancel the electric field from the charge
on the capacitor plates. If the capacitor is connected to a
battery at the time, the battery is able to store more charge in
the capacitor, bringing the field back to its original value.
So by that: Tesla coil  top  electrode called "Top Capacitor"
(+) is only  one plate where second plate of that capacitor  is  the Earth.(-)
The voltage difference  in vertical space between  Earth and Ionosphere is around 100V per meter . So at the head  of 2m tool guy
the voltage potential is  ~200V 
(+)
Because Air acts as dielectric between the plates  than we have  always connected in parallel capacitor to these two plates of Tesla coil.
Potential difference  between your foot and   your head   is  0V although you may think it should be around 200V because it is shorted by  your body walking
on the earth and you are becoming part of the ground , like  hill or mountain is .
The same story is with Tesla coil that is grounded on one side .
However
when we deliver energy to secondary of Tesla Coil we create  that potential difference .
and       
when we charge energy on some carpet it can spark from your hand when you touching  ground or  other uncharged person body 
That what is explained  above is  just shrink  condensed  explanation that may create even more questions.
like : What Is Dielectric?
         What Is Dielectric Constant of air ? ( the breakdown of air is  around 3kV/mm = 30kV/cm) depends of condition of the air.)         
         Electric field lines-Properties         
         Dielectric Polarization in Polar and Nonpolar Material
         Effect of Dielectric on Capacitance
         Dielectric Material And Dipole Moment
https://byjus.com/physics/dielectric-constant/   unfortunately, it looks like this link doesn't open in Europe and may not open in Russian Federation that  miraculously still didn't
disintegrate yet like  the former Soviet Union.


opinion expressed is my own

Wesley

stivep

Quote from: aleks on April 29, 2023, 12:58:49 PM
As for USA supremacy and its "rightfulness", USA is done. Energy business worldwide is likely done, too.
I do appreciate  your opinion in this comment  Aleks very much
Here is my view on  the subject: Technology allows to make money.
Money  allows more technology including  armory just to make more money.
Taxes  pushes us to invest in business -that allows us to  avoid taxes and that creates work for American workers who pays most of the taxes.
Americans need to  keep up with education to compete with  demanding  skills profession.
Chinese occupies ~70% of our  universities as if they didn't have their own, and we are  their  products  market.
That is why some countries are in deep sh*t and China (using sort of "slave" workmanship)  is not  helping Russia's  military.
They don't want to make us the rulers of the world  unhappy.
Russia  is a loser as it disobeys our rules. In a "quiet" day ~650 casualties going to ~ 1,200 to 1,500 casualties a day in Ukraine
of all professions specialists,and another 1500 wounded .
That makes ~3000 of Russians per day = ~90 000 per month, of actively excluded from ability to work, get married, become fathers.( last year it was 1/4th of that)
Capitalism works  and Russia since 1917 is going down  rejecting  it,
It is the answer to the question : why we the Americans/Canadians and EU and Australia and Japan are the sanction makers and Russia is
suffering from these sanctions.
USA, Germany and England are the "kings" of the world.
Historically, Polish are seen as the most bitter to Russians in the entire world, often irritated just by the sound of their language or music.


I hope it helps.
opinion expressed is my own
Wesley

aleks

Quote from: stivep on April 29, 2023, 03:30:31 PM
Can you tell me:
1. what was the frequency of the  sine wave you tested  your speakers with? 
2. I assume sound card was internally connected to motherboard port ISA, VESA,( till year 95) Windows
    or PCI  widows XP or or in time of your experiment  in year 2012 PCIe port (windows 7/8) of your computer right ?
3. This computer was powered  from 220V  single phase right?
The frequency was between 20 and 20kHz, as you noted. It was a long time ago, and I didn't take notes at the time. It may have been a harmonic multiple, so many matching frequencies are possible. I've swept through the whole spectrum and at some point achieved the effect.
The sound card is a usual "on board" soundcard, not a discrete soundcard. The wiring of the soundcard and loudspeakers was very loose - I've just twisted the wires.
The computer was connected to the same municipal 220V power grid as the loudspeakers, but not via the same tee.


On Tesla coil, you are again talking about "air as dielectric". I've pointed out that discharge happens in vacuum. So your explanation is a miss if you assume that Tesla coil toroidal capacitor and Earth are opposing ends. There's no connection to Earth yet the discharge happens - where does the energy flow for the discharge to happen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdRz3GBR_Qs&t=108s