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Anyone made a Lutec?

Started by Craigy, January 09, 2007, 12:52:11 PM

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tao

Quote from: hoptoad on December 01, 2007, 12:54:37 AM
Quote from: tao on December 01, 2007, 12:21:06 AM

So, after reading his writeup, I feel certainly that he is using the EFFECT that I am talking about, but that his methods to 'exaggerate' this EFFECT are 'righteously convoluted' (because how is he or anyone else to know really WHY?) and make for seeing how and why this EFFECT occurs hard to notice/see...

The part where Hoptoad rewords Lenz's Law certainly fits his writeup in that it helps to understand the mysterious 'exaggeration of Lenz's Law' that Hoptoad is talking about, but in understanding the way I see the EFFECT and seeing how it works, Lenz's Law fits just nicely as it is, without modifications: "the magnetic field of any induced current opposes the change that induces it."........
@Tao
Greetings Tao, the reason I set up the experiment on page 10 the way I did, was to show you a way to reproduce a certain "effect" which occurs in the Adam's, Bedini, Lutec motor etc which all the Inventors of said motors claim is a result of their "special" pulsing technique, or "special" coil layout, but which actually has nothing to do with pulsing or special coils whatsoever.

Page 10 is not intended to explain why the anomoly occurs, but is meant to show you how to make it occur, so you can study it yourself. In this instance, I have deliberately shied away from the explanation as to to "why" so as not to prejudice the views of those who wish to experiment. In this way, if more information comes to light, it will be from a fresh viewpoint and not tainted in any way by my or any other persons "beliefs" or experimental data.

As stated on page 10, I have an "opinion" about how the shift from "oppositional" to "neutral" reaction occurs within the pick-up coils, and will eventually air this opinion. But in the meantime, I am hoping that others will at least replicate the "effect" so that I have "peers" in this area to compare notes to.

As for Bending Lenz's Law, I'll stick by that statement, because according to Lenz's Law, every time the load is increased, the resultant extra coil current should oppose the movement of the inducing magnets and cause further slowing of the rotor, but in an open system, this is not the case.

Sorry if the explanation got a little convoluted, but "self righteous"?  :D I wish I could take myself that seriously!  :D :D

Cheers from the Toad who Hops.


You did an awesome writeup Hoptoad, congrats man!

I didn't mean that you were 'self righteous' lol, sorry, I meant that you righteously and understandably didn't know exactly WHY the bending of the Lenz's Law was happening, because it isn't obvious at all.

I respect your idea of holding back any of your theories as of yet.

I will though, be explaining this EFFECT, explaining the WHY... WHY the Bedini/Lutec/Adams systems work the way they do, WHY and HOW this EFFECT works. So, I just wanted you to know that. So, you can compare what you thought about the WHY against my explanation.

:)

hoptoad

Quote from: tao on December 01, 2007, 01:06:20 AM
I will though, be explaining this EFFECT, explaining the WHY... WHY the Bedini/Lutec/Adams systems work the way they do, WHY and HOW this EFFECT works. So, I just wanted you to know that. So, you can compare what you thought about the WHY against my explanation.
:)
@ Tao.
Awesome, I Look forward to all and any information regarding this effect.

Cheers from the Toad who Hops.......KneeDeep  :D

DeeDub

Great Forum...
I'm new...
Experimenting with a couple of things but pulsed motors appeal to me most and I took special interest in the Lutec LEA because I'm pretty sure that's what it is - with one coil drive and others feeding back and generating output. (2 sets of contacts on top with alot of magnets on the rotor lead me to believe that it's being pulsed twice per rev.)
However, what caught my attention here was hoptoad's article and experiment. As I read it, there was something that clicked and I remembered this series of videos from a guy at Ottawa Univ.
(I think you will find this most interesting - at least I learned alot - and may confirm hoptoad's suspicions) at 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E  (Parts 1 and 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs (Part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJOwjQV1lw (another Part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0 (Part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q18eSaiKMyc (Part 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WrzCRimtHc (Part 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wie2ZLWHUEk (Part 7)

Other videos by the same guy that you will like also...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaf9v0K-rZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmFbINO0dCU (improved coil design)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTH3Mzvt-U (demo skeptics group)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCvhxHh_ctE (Ottawa University - good summary of what the other videos detailed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhPUlunwhPk (no narration but shows the HV coil accel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaf9v0K-rZw

OK, sorry about all the video links but somebody might find something in here that helps alot.
Again, thanks for the forum - I've been reading for about a week or so and there are some pretty brilliant guys around here...
DW

potatogunman

heres a pic from the Lutec patent   i think im going to try  this one

theres the site i got it from    http://www.google.com/patents?id=gdgNAAAAEBAJ&dq=6630806

Vonkentrekker

Don't bother. The Lutec is a hoax. The 'inventors' use the wrong measurement equipment which shows meaningless figures. I've had some detailed reports about the Lutec device and when applying the proper math to it, it turns out the efficiency is around 75% and not 200%.

And it is easy to explain: a magnet cannot output power. You will probably say that a magnet can hold things. However, without motion there is not power output. Now you will say that a magnet can move objects as well. True, but the energy required to pull the object towards the magnet is the same as the energy required to pull the objects away so the net result is still zero.

A magnet is like a catalyst in chemical reactions. It helps to make something work.