Reactive Current - Parallel RCL

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nix85

Ether was removed from mainstream "science" just like perpetual motion before it...
"Eppur si muove" ("And yet it moves)".

In many respects it's not a matter of proof or a lack of it if it's never acknowledged. Once many people get a belief in there head there is no amount of proof which could change it. I change my mind daily on many things...but that's another story.

On the Aether, I break the argument down into a few key questions...
1)The Michelson–Morley experiment was an attempt to detect the existence of the luminiferous aether. There argument was that the motion of the Earth through an aether/medium should effect the speed of light in there apparatus. It did not, however we know the speed of light is constant whether the source is moving or not. We also know electric, magnetic and electromagnetic fields do not rotate with the source. As such Michelson–Morley simply verified what we already know, the primary fields are a property of space not the source which created them. Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.

2)As well if the notion of a lack of aether/medium is to be valid we would then need to explain how a field change/EM radiation could propagate through empty space. You see it violates the basic premise of physics as cause and effect/natural law and supposes that EM waves can act on themselves or through nothing. As well it discounts the existence of EM waves because the concept of a wave relies on a medium to act as a wave carrier. As such they would have to abandon the whole notion of waves and cause and effect.

As we can see general relativity and any non-aether theory would seem to be a classic case of "The Emperor's New Clothes".  People didn't want to look stupid or be the odd man out so they bought into a fairy tale where "anything is possible".

It's cool, if they want to believe something can be created from nothing, a wave can travel without a wave carrier or act on nothing then free energy is super easy to explain. Free energy is possible for the same reasons they think GR or space time is possible. I mean if they want to throw all logic, reason and common sense out the window then let's go for it, lol.

Regards
AC

[stivep]

Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.
Regards
AC

Thank you for your comment.
every idea having to be experimentally proven :
empirical knowledge,  is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as   non usable, non-practical and theoretically  inconsistent concept.
Wesley

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stivep

every idea having to be experimentally proven :
empirical knowledge,  is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as non usable, non-practical and theoretically  inconsistent concept.

That's not entirely correct in my opinion...
It's not that the Aether theory was unusable, unpractical or inconsistent. They just couldn't find an acceptable experiment to verify it's existence at the time.

For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a Dark energy/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe. Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not appear to interact with the electromagnetic field, which means it does not absorb, reflect, or emit electromagnetic radiation (like light) and is, therefore, difficult to detect. Various astrophysical observations – including gravitational effects which cannot be explained by currently accepted theories of gravity unless more matter is present than can be seen – imply dark matter's presence.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?, "a medium" pervading all space we know exists through secondary effects. A medium which does not interact directly with EM fields or light. It's also interesting to note the Michelson–Morley experiment wouldn't detect dark energy or matter either yet we know it exists through other measurements.

Then we have Dark Energy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

In physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form of energy that affects the universe on the largest scales. The first observational evidence for its existence came from measurements of supernovas, which showed that the universe does not expand at a constant rate; rather, the universe's expansion is accelerating.

Apparently the Aether is dead, long live dark matter and energy, which is basically the Aether with a new name.

Regards
AC

[stivep]

Michelson–Morley experiment

Michelson–Morley experiment
DEFINITION an experiment performed in 1887 which attempted to measure the relative motion of the earth and the ether by measuring the speed of light in directions parallel and perpendicular to the earth's motion. The result disproved the existence of the ether, which contradicted Newtonian physics but was explained by Einstein's special theory of relativity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_A._Michelson

<sub>First performed in Germany in 1880–81 by the physicist A.A. Michelson,
the test was later refined in 1887 by Michelson and Edward W. Morley in the United States.
attempt to detect the velocity of Earth with respect to the hypothetical luminiferous ether,
a medium in space proposed to carry light waves.
This  seriously discredited the ether theories and ultimately led to the proposal by
Albert Einstein in 1905 that the speed of light is a universal constant.
https://www.britannica.com/science/Michelson-Morley-experiment

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For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a
Dark energy/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

link quoted by says :
Dark matter , not to be confused with , Dark energy,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

comment:

1. Dark matter and dark energy there are two different "animals."
So I'm confused in to, what properties similarity you wanted to compare with?
2. think about it like about competition:
– problem  was explained by E = mC ^squared

Wesley

[alan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jy4wk9r0rg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iv4Gel8HDY