Is output four times the input?

[vineet_kiran]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Ol05blLE

Power transmission is 2𝝅nT.  For both green and yellow wheel, everything is same except speed (n). Is output power from green wheel is four times more than input power to yellow wheel because speed (n) is four times more?

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/work-torque-d_1377.html

[lancaIV]

Good Morning,vineet_kiran,


to get a question/answer visit


https://overunity.com/2238/cheap-wind-farming/ reply #5 and 10 !


speed increase/ force increase          square law or cube law ?
speed decrease/ force decrease       inverse square law or inverse cube law ?

https://www.scarsdaleschools.k12.ny.us/cms/lib5/NY01001205/Centricity/Domain/142/SAS_HP_CR_Chap_21_Radov.pdf
F = BIL (f=force, b=magnetic field, i=current, l=length of conductor)
F = Bqv (f= force, b= magnetic field, q= charge of particle, v= velocity)





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in very BIG the numbers and effect ratio:


A   100 meters diameter           =     0,5 MW  output          diameter/output ratio


B   200 meters diameter           =     5   MW                      A/B 2 times / 10 times


C 1000 meters diameter           = 500    MW                     B/C 5 times /100 times


D 2000 meters diameter          =   ?                                 C/D  2 times/   


The maximum possible diameter of a KITE WIND GENERATOR is one of the objects of study of this project, but from the initial evaluations, it appears possible to exceed 5,000MW (5 Gigawatts) without great structural risks, with a diameter of slightly more than 2000 metres.
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20061109062733/http://sequoiaonline.com/blogs/ARCHIVIOscelti/intro_eng.pdf


D 2000 meters diameter/ A 100 meters diameter = 20   : in v cube = 8000 x 0,5 MW = 4000 MW (4 GW)

When 2000 metres diameter  and 5000 MW then for 100 metres diameter :

           inverse(= decrease)  cubic  law : 5000/(2000/100)v3 = 0,625 MW

Question : is by Sequoia Automation the B and D output right "offered"/calculated  ?


                                       by "cube law"when  A =        0,5 MW

then   B =         4    MW


then   C =     500 MW


finally D =   4000 MW

[vineet_kiran]

In normal gear system, speed and torque are adjusted by adjusting gear ratio.  We cannot get higher speed with equal size (diameter) gears. But in this case the size (diameter) of both wheels are same but speed is four times more.  Hence work which is Torque X  angular distance has to be four times more.  Is that correct?

The catch here is that,  the neo magnets on two wheels, side by side attract with terrific force and that force acts on bearings axially.  May be considerable energy is required to overcome this force. 

[lancaIV]

When by the delivered video model the wheel magnets are take away ?
assumption : 1/1 diameter green/yellow wheels speed 1/1
green wheel direction/yellow wheel direction ?

  green wheel magnets number and size/yellow  wheel magnets number and size
                           16 small /4 great ~ 4 small per great

The ratio green/yellow wheels their "magnetic torque amplifier" :

great magnets circumference and surface area ( N and S )

small magnets circumference and surface area ( N and S )

how many interchanges,attractive/repulsive, per minute ?

the distance " great magnets middle point as ring" from shaft / the distance " small magnets middlepoint as  ring" from shaft ?

these are parameters for more experiments/ 3d printer modelling !

2+x green/yellow wheels  on a shaft seriell
2+x green/white wheels on each own shaft parallel coupled ( magnet force amplifying battery)


One side electrified( motoric/generatoric)

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[Floor]

The simplest and most straight forward formula is, force times displacement
equals work.

Unless the device is receiving energy from the magnets,
the force available on one wheel is 1/4 of the force applied to the
other wheel while its displacement is 4 times greater.
                 Or
When the prime force is applied to the other wheel instead,  the force
available from the second wheel is 4 times the force applied to the first
wheel but the displacement (rotation) is 1/4 of the first wheel.

Before considering friction losses and so on, the energy is the same input or
output.

Like a lever trades either,
force for distance
  OR
distance for force,
force times displacement equals work done.

Unless...
The magnets can contribute some additional energy to the motions ?

In which case, weights if hung by strings upon the wheels (as if they were pulleys)
will not balance at a 4 to 1 ratio ? 

A simple test.

A smaller weight lowering, will lift, a greater weight a distance which is
greater than or equal to the distance the smaller weight travels downward.