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Lüling magnet motor by Ufopolitics

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2021, 08:53:14 PM

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knovos


Haven't had any success with finding a fast push mechanism yet. The attempts I've made didn't work at all. I am not an engineer more a maker so I lack knowledge of what systems there are in the world. I did come across a video channel where someone shows a huge amount of mechanical methods. Perhaps an inspiration for all those who want to work on this system. https://www.youtube.com/c/KINGMECHANICALOFFICIAL
There must be something there that is useful.

Ufopolitics

Quote from: knovos on February 16, 2022, 03:57:32 PM
Haven't had any success with finding a fast push mechanism yet. The attempts I've made didn't work at all. I am not an engineer more a maker so I lack knowledge of what systems there are in the world. I did come across a video channel where someone shows a huge amount of mechanical methods. Perhaps an inspiration for all those who want to work on this system. https://www.youtube.com/c/KINGMECHANICALOFFICIAL
There must be something there that is useful.


Hello Knovos,


Well, you are not going to find any mechanisms which could be applied as they are built and "ready to go on"...you will have to use them just to learn how they work first.


Most Toggle switches (cut off switches) require a pretty strong push, where you load a spring, until it discharges into the contact...not good.
You will need to balance and modify the spring and the travel distance to make it more "sensitive"...without a lot of effort to actuate it.


The switch we are looking for, does not exists in a mechanical fashion...why?


Imagine a switch is OFF, and you turn it slightly and it goes to the ON Position BUT, right away it RETURNS back to OFF by itself?...so you will never be able to keep it at the ON position...and exactly that is what we are looking for.


I have gone through a few (dozens) of possibilities...and do not work the way I want to...


All the knowledge you will need is about Levers and its laws...the different type of Levers Classes...
I preferably use levers which actuate on small rollers, which reduce friction...to push back and forth.


Also, you will need to imagine your switching mechanism at very high speeds...and most toggle switches are not design to do that...but once in a while...


For simplicity in Design and understanding, I have divided my switching mechanism into three parts:


1- High Pressure side: in charge to apply two different pressures with Two different mechanisms:

A- Pressure Spring actuator to release attract magnet that works for like only two millimmiters.
B- Pressure Spring to Return Magnet back to a "reset" position. (it only starts charging at the very end of travel distance)
(There is a loose travel range in between both Pressures.)


2- The Lower Pressure Switching Pump or "Heart" : Is in charge to switch back and forth in between that loose travel range between High Pressures.


I built this with Three small levers and rollers...all aligned (rotating) within the same axis.


1-A Center Actuator Lever which pivots magnet track, back and forth.
2-A bottom Reverse Lever (connected to #1) and which travels opposed to #1, Center actuator.
3-A bigger "C" Type of lever bracket, embracing both #1 & #2, which actuates #1 back and forth on higher part...
I used a small Tension Spring in between #1 & #2 levers, which swaps from left to right, connected on the higher part of #1 and the lowest of #2 Reverse lever, this spring generates the fast switching defining positions between Right-Left.
Then Sensitivity could be adjusted by tilting closer to spring actuation-trigger through a screw-nut bracket.


The C Bracket is what connects to the triggering part...


2- The Trigger System, which simulates what the air valve and rod does...and it is just the actuating rod and a cam lever which actuates other Transfer levers until it reaches the "C" Bracket-Lever #3 at the "Pump"...


When the rotor actuates all these mechanisms blend together in Sinchronicity...


I have spend Days, Months, in just designing each system here, first on CAD, then on real build...and I am still working now on the CAD actuator part...


I have finished the High Pressure System already, in CAD and building it on the Prototype...so far it is giving me the output I am after.


Every spring, every lever, must be able to be adjusted their pressures as their distance traveling ranges...until you find the right settings.


I have ordered a small CNC-Mill Tool to give the right finishing to all the main pump parts...built in Aluminum.
Also I just got a Vertical mini press CNC-Mill operation to adapt on my Lathe...


I will tell you, you need patience my friend...lots of...


PD: This is a Reciprocating System, not only at magnet back and forth, but all mechanisms must work aligned as a small engine, where their timing is very accurate.


Magnet executes a pressure force, and a much lower required force actuator will amplify that Mechanical Input into the back-forth operation of a longer distance.


This is exactly an Action-Reaction System, where Magnet Force (Action) needs to be always higher than Reaction (your full mechanism) to keep a constant rotation.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci

Ufopolitics

Some counseling when working on CAD Software...


I always first start with simple 2D CAD, using real scale or 1:1 ratio, in mm.


I take a pic (top view, of course) of my existing prototype and take it to the CAD as a Background image, so all the existing parts are in scale with the ones I will build...

First all my levers are made with simple "poly lines" where I set the right pivoting or center of rotation...plus their travel ends points.
I work with high accuracy and not having any "cross hair lines" not aligned properly at centers...where multiple parts align...this will avoid giving you wrong results, and thinking it is right!
Then I shape my parts around those bracket poly lines with CV Curves tool...once working right, I get all poly lines into a Layer and turn off visibility...so only all parts contour are revealed...


Then I add animation first on 2D Curves of all parts, where all mechanisms start coming alive...


I print a 1:1 2D plan and cut off all my Patterns of every part...then take it to the shop...and cut them off out of a thick plate (1/2 inch) of aluminum...


But first, you need to make sure it works the way you want in your animated CAD Software...before yo start making parts.


The last thing I do, is to take it to a 3D CAD Software and it is basically to illustrate for my videos...




Regards




Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci

Ufopolitics

Before, I wrote:


Quote1-High Pressure side: in charge to apply two different pressures with Two different mechanisms:


A- Pressure Spring actuator to release attract magnet that works for like only two millimmiters.


B- Pressure Spring to Return Magnet back to a "reset" position. (it only starts charging at the very end of travel distance)(There is a loose travel range in between both Pressures.)


I want to specify that both pressure springs, A & B work on separate axis, one axis per pressure spring, and NOT on the same axis or shaft where magnet pivots back and forth!
I have used same shaft as magnet to set high force springs and it does NOT work...why?
It restricts all the moving distances from magnet...even when spring is compressed, it still uses a space which contrains traveling of magnet.
When you set springs in different shafts or axis, there is plenty of room for magnet to travel back and forth.
Remember, this High Pressure Springs only work at the beggining and end of a FREE travel...which is much longer than the springs actuation.

About the magnet separator spring lever-mechanism, the spring is NEVER allowed to fully decompress!!...but only a few mm, (adjustable) that is all required so magnet could be moved easily with just one finger...back and forth.




Hope all this explanations will help you start putting together your CAD Designs...




Good luck






Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci

Ufopolitics

Related: High Pressure System


I just hate not to provide Graphics and Images about all that I have written before...so, here it is... As am sure, now, you all will have an idea of what I am talking about... :)


Like I wrote before...Pressure 1 & 2 Springs are mounted on separate shafts, in order they actuate independent of each other and whenever it is required to, depending on the retracting magnet positioning.


If you notice I have pointed in Yellow Lines and small arrows, the Gaps of loose distances they operate without any force applied.


Notice Rotor-Stator Magnets are at closest gap and engaged in attraction max travel.


Notice the very small gap (around 2 mm) that the Magnet release spring works on...


The return spring at this positioning as shown, is completely decompressed, it only compresses at the very end of magnet traveling, and basically, at slow motion it will not work effectively...
Only at high speed retraction from magnet shaft, is when this spring will BOUNCE BACK (RETURN) the whole assembly back to Neutral Positioning in milli seconds.




Regards




Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci