New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in

[Floor]

Clarification of intent / approaches / design and some possibilities ?

We have concepts and / or designs,  wherein the intent is to
                                   suppress
a permanent magnet by means of the application of an opposing
electromagnet.  This is already being used in scrap metal lifting cranes
and so on.  No    direct    net gain here.
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We have concepts and / or designs,  wherein the intent is to
                                      shunt
magnetic force in such a manner that the process of the
        cyclical, shunting and / or switching of that magnetic current from
shunted to un shunted,
                           will consume less energy than can be gained from
the energy difference between the application of that force when shunted and un - shunted.
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We have concepts and / or designs,  wherein the intent is to
                                            balance forces
                 such that force vectors and / or other characteristics
              may be rearranged without a net opposition by magnetic forces
                                               and in turn
              those rearrangements give rise to  interactions which are profitable
                                      in terms of an energy gain.

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We have concepts and / or designs,  wherein the intent is to
         stall or slow down in time / create some form of stasis in an event
                                     during which period we
                                     move a field or exit it,
                                                     or
                       in some other way alter some relationship/s
     such that force vectors and / or other characteristics may be rearranged without
                                                or with little
             significant opposition and there by profit, in term of an energy gain.
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                  We have concepts and / or designs,  wherein the intent is
                   multiplications or additions (cascading) of force where in
                                                          there exits
                                                    no   apparent  gain,
                              because increases must be reversed or undone
                                             in order to proceed cyclically.
                                                                but
                      those forces can while in their multiplied state / conditions
                                                  give rise to changes
               which do not subtract from the energy used to cause reversal / undoing
                                                          and instead
                      only cause a delay in time in the macro world, of that reversal / undoing
                                   (apparently simultaneous to that reversal / undoing)
                                                              behavior
                               (which is  in some manner is like unto the behaviors
                                        of those, theorized, particles, which physics
                                                          has termed virtual).
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                                              Some combinations of the above.

                                              Some of the above may be statements of
                                              essentially the same things.

                                              Other options.

[jimbo]

Citfta
Great find can't beat it for 10 bucks .  floor what are you taking about ? I have found a video from a guy that has done some work on using neos on a transformer and pulses it with DC .he shows the no neo out put and the neo out put .big difference and simpler to do .he uses a Small DC motor and with the neos it speeds up and the volts drop like from 5 or 6 to 1 to 1 1/2 volts  but no inline resistor on the input or out put to give wattage differences if any .if there is then my next question would be what if I did two in series ?. Ect . I'll dig it out for you guys .

[jimbo]

Here's the vid


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atUTu8sg94w


Flynn if your concerned about output check out Flynn magnetic motor he's got a industry built around it .and in his diagrams its 1 in  and 4 out .

[jimbo]

Hi here's what got me going down this road .I was looking at bedini motors and looking for improvement. John said he got about 80 to 85 % return on his system the magic was in the h wave and the batteries .but he also said that if you included the unused mechanical aka the rotation then it is over unity .so I noticed he didn't use the south end of his pluse coils .so i am adding a second wheel next to the first and south then the coil would need to have a horse shoe core . then I saw that some of the guys were using magnets under the coils and it didn't speed things us but reduced the input energy by 2/3s  ..interesting ? Then I found this neo core raped in iron raped in copper windings .1 in and 4 out so I'm going that way with the horse shoe coil.by placing a neo string inside of the bedini coil and making the core larger to accommodate the new stuff. All of these changes should have a effect on the system .by cutting input and adding out put mechanical . hell just using the rotation put it into over unity according to john his should really do it . but now in got my noise stuck in that neo transformer thing .well it keeps me out of the bars  is this what hell is like ?.

[Floor]

floor what are you taking about ?

There are several methods of approach in regard to electro permanent magnet interactions.

No doubt.  In some conditions the combination of an electromagnet and a
permanent magnet will      increase         the magnetic force from the magnet.
They add up.

No doubt.  In some conditions the combination of an electromagnet and a
permanent magnet will       decrease      the magnetic force from the magnet.
They subtract.

There are other things that one might hope to accomplish.

for example...

The turning on and off of a magnetic current, by a method which might in some
ways be like unto the way a transistor can turn on or off an electric current.
I refer to this as      shunting      the magnetic current into another path or as
simply  shunting.

Some transistors use an extremely low amount of power to do that switching.

If a permanent magnet can be switched in that way, this would be free energy from
that magnet.


There are other approaches to the goal of gaining energy as well. 
Some of them, I listed above.


It is good to have some idea as to which approach one is using,
as well as why it might work.
No ?

How would you define the approach which you are using ?

   hoping for your success
              best wishes           
                         floor