New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in

[jimbo]

Addendum
To improve even more use double the copper wire for double flux for same watts and use a cap because they once fired off self recharge to 5% of original charge . on the topic of of magnets and energy I was starting to do some work on toroidal core switch's it seems that they can be shut down magnetically with the right windings and the right pluse level hers the point take a long iron u channel or L channel and set it up with a wooden track for a small wagon with good wheels the idea is there's neos in the cart and the cart wheels sit on a ever declining track getting closer to the iron channel .if you let it go it runs like bullet to the end collecting kinetic energy all the way now on the end at the lock up point sits the toroidal switch and as the cart passes its pulsed off .this would make a rail gun with almost not power .now curve it in to a circle . and its a magnetic Wankel. But with a lot less power to run it . OK I'm done .I hope ?
Oh I for got that channel could be six feet long or six hundred miles long the turn off energy wouldn't change .

[citfta]

Here's the vid


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atUTu8sg94w


Flynn if your concerned about output check out Flynn magnetic motor he's got a industry built around it .and in his diagrams its 1 in  and 4 out .

Hi Jim,


It is obvious that the magnets are doing something to the transformer provided the video isn't fake.  But that can only happen if the transformer is being pulsed with DC.  If he is using AC to power the transformer then the magnets should have the same effect no matter which way they are turned.


The meter is reacting to the nearness of the magnet.  If you watch closely you will see the needle move sometimes before he even gets the magnets close to the transformer.  So the meter reading means nothing.  I am not saying that the magnet coil configuration you are working on doesn't work.  I am only saying that video doesn't really prove it.  I have mentioned to you before that putting a magnet on the other end of a coil core makes a big difference so I believe in what you are doing.  Keep up the good work.  When I get some time I will try to make some coils like you are making.


Take care buddy,
Carroll

[jimbo]

Carroll
He states in other videos that its a positive pluses only and the fact that the meter is being effected by the presence of the flux field means its true not invalid its the fields not the mass that's important .and because its so simple and dirt cheap to duplicate proving it false is easy .or true . which I'm going to do . just to satisfy my own curiosity.

[captainpecan]

Since we are talking about making a coil that is much stronger than a normal coil I wondered how hard it would be to make a gauss meter.  They are pretty expensive if you buy one but very cheap if you are willing to make your own.  Of course they won't be calibrated but would be good for relative measurements.  I found this article on line for anyone interested in making their own;


https://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=gaussmeter


Carroll

That's awesome! Now I've got to build that too... lol. That would be so useful in these projects just for general "is this better than that" numbers that don't need to be exact accuracy.

[captainpecan]

Hi here's what got me going down this road .I was looking at bedini motors and looking for improvement. John said he got about 80 to 85 % return on his system the magic was in the h wave and the batteries .but he also said that if you included the unused mechanical aka the rotation then it is over unity .so I noticed he didn't use the south end of his pluse coils .so i am adding a second wheel next to the first and south then the coil would need to have a horse shoe core . then I saw that some of the guys were using magnets under the coils and it didn't speed things us but reduced the input energy by 2/3s  ..interesting ? Then I found this neo core raped in iron raped in copper windings .1 in and 4 out so I'm going that way with the horse shoe coil.by placing a neo string inside of the bedini coil and making the core larger to accommodate the new stuff. All of these changes should have a effect on the system .by cutting input and adding out put mechanical . hell just using the rotation put it into over unity according to john his should really do it . but now in got my noise stuck in that neo transformer thing .well it keeps me out of the bars  is this what hell is like ?.

I didn't get that far this week on my project with family stuff and work. But I just got caught up reading stuff in here. You and I are on very much the same page with our thought process. I was hoping to have my motor running by now so I could post stuff on it already. But hopefully in next few days. I've been posting my stuff in my own thread about it. But what I noticed about what you said above, was you were going to use both sides of the electromagnet. That is EXACTLY what I am building. Mine isn't a bedini wheel. So far just an axial flux design but I am using both sides of the electromagnet. I am working out what circuit I want to run it on. I am wanting to try a variation of the Dadhav Lidmotor circuit. Looks interesting and I have not played with it yet. My coil is not bifilar wound, so my bedini school girl I have isn't ideal. I'll show my work, I think you will be interested in seeing it when I get a bit further now that I think we are visualizing the same thing.