Permanent magnet assisted motor coil designs

[jimbo]

Captain pecan
Once you've run your tests there's more you can do .if you drill a hole or tube up the middle of the coil cores .a small hole that would fit 1/8 neo stack it becomes a magnet assisted motor .or in other words when the  power is off the core shorts out the flux field from the neos and when turned on the flux field has no were to go but out combining with the electromagnetic field of the coil .its a booster .and by just adding one neo at a time you can find the needed amount for max output. Happy trails .

[captainpecan]

Now you are getting the design... the center of the core IS A PERMANENT MAGNET... that was my entire concept. The coils are made so I cam switch out the center. The core is a bushing, with a 1/2" open core. I can still fill it woth steel to test. But I have put a 1/2" magnet inside it and packed 3mm of steel on both sides to enclose the field. The pulse releases the permanent magnet field along with the normal electromagnet. You may have missed the first couple pages of this thread. I tried to detail as much as I could and my theories. Some are proving wrong of course. I have been trying to keep high number turns with thin wire because it is showing the most magnetic field per amount of energy. BUT... it is taking really high voltage for a slow rotation even though it is using next to nothing in current. But, that is still using all coils in series and very high resistance. I am going to make little changes at a time, and then I will be winding some coils with 24 awg wire to test. It may require that extra current to be very useful. But I will find out.

[captainpecan]

I am seeing some interesting things as I do some testing with this design. As was expected, and brought up by someone early in this thread, Lenz Law is an issue because I am using magnets on the rotor. I am seeing quite a bit of drag, even just collecting the back spike. Some is quite possibly that I have magnets to close on the rotor. But there is a possibility that many of the gains in my design could equal even greater losses due to Lenz. As I move forward with this project, I will be changing the rotor and making a set with iron instead of magnets. Turn this into an attraction motor reducing the severe effect of Lenz law. I can see a very good adaptation on my whole concept to include the work from Tinmans torque force motor. I had that in the back of mind as I was trying to build and understand his concept. I have not fully replicated his motor but I did successfully replicate the effect his motor is taking advantage of. These permanent magnet boosted coils could really boost the attraction effect in his motor design. I may be able to use what I learned from all of Tinmans great work, to meld these two together for a VERY efficient motor/generator design. It has been well known by many and repeated by Tinman, that using attraction in a motor seems to just perform better than repulsion even though to me it seems counterintuitive. But, I often have to learn the hard way by building stuff wrong first. But the experience and knowledge is priceless.  I'm just getting my thoughts and theories out of my head and down somewhere.

[captainpecan]

Frustration is begining to set in with my current setup. I think it is time to change direction. It runs well. And it runs on very little energy. But when I simply try and recover the flyback, it really bogs down the motor and thats not even trying to pull any other energy out of it. I can get it running at over 500 rpm if I hook all the coils in parallel. But it doesn't take long for that high voltage spike to tank my mosfets. I have to take care of the kickback but when I do, it seriously bogs down the motor and the current cranks up. Almost worse than a traditional motor. With my current design, there is just to many permanent magnets involved and Lenz law is kicking my butt severely. If I try and take any energy out, it throws the breaks on from every damn angle it seems. I have proven the concept of the coils and it works great. But I think I will need to turn this into an attraction motor in order to see any real benefit from these special coils. Big learning experience I am very happy to gain. I can't wait to start converting things around to see what this thing is capable of.


Here is a short clip of it running.
https://youtu.be/Cfn3Zx-JXho

[lancaIV]

Salve ,capitano !
Living with a black cat around ,and more !


Demo arrangement :

Upper wheel and a second,smaller one !
The wheels distance ! More and less distance experiments !?
The upper wheel : rpm rated ? Over/under rated rpm measure values !?
The electricity input variation : DC,AC,pulsed DC,PWM DC included duty cycle lenght experiments !
The nether wheel : ratio diameter upper to diameter nether !
The nether wheel : diameter greater the upper wheel !
Step up or Step down : mechanical transformer !
When not Lenz rules,entering in Fleming rules !?
Enough for a Sunday

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OCWL

p.s.: Your ' frustration' remembered me SOFT CELL their NON-STOP EROTIC CABARET theme ' Frustration',                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebuXP2YLE8

which I for the first time saw in video-audio formate some hours before !(The audio as cassette since the middle 80' owning)


Youtube delivers also : Bedsitter ( ....Sunday morning ... ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbC4yxjydUc

Mein Jott eeye,die san so watt fon twul eeye,so was can become ' free energy' cold weather chamber heater !?
Almond : so ' nen will man nitt bedingungslos im Mondschein begegnen !Naja,Gottes Produktionsphasen sind un-?/ergruendlich : Montag-/Freitag -Prod.-Aussch(l)usz-Ware !