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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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bistander

So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes way up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi

rakarskiy

Quote from: onepower on July 04, 2022, 08:52:17 PM
Rakarskiy
It's an interesting and popular theory however I always had serious reservations because of the reasoning involved.

Adding a steel core, more so a closed core, can concentrate the magnetic field increasing the efficiency of induction over an air or open core coil. However this is not a gain in energy, were simply utilizing more of the energy already present and wasting less as heat and other losses.

As well, calculations are problematic which is why I do experiments. I wanted to understand the very thing in question many years ago so I used an Arduino/Labview and voltage, current and a hall effect sensors to graph and analyze various coil and transformer setups. That is analyze the real time magnetic field strength versus voltage, current and energy input.

Which led me to believe many were barking up the wrong tree and using ambiguous simulation/calculations instead of real experiments. As the saying goes, knowing what doesn't work can save us a lot of time and help us move in a more productive direction.

Regards
AC

Теория?!!! Интересно, какое у вас образование?
Это не теория, это отрасль науки и инженерного проектирования.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit

Find a branch of science that studies the magnetic properties of materials that change with time.
It's just that there is magnetostatics, but how strongly it is presented on Wikipedia:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostatics

:) :D ;D ;)

rakarskiy

Quote from: bistander on July 05, 2022, 12:55:59 AM
So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes away up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi

It is explained by an elementary dependence, the greater the speed, the greater the EMF:

E = B * L * V (m/s);    or    E =  4 * k *w * f(Hz) * B * S;  where: k - winding coefficient (0.8-0.9); w - the number of turns; The rest of the designations, I hope, do not need to be specified!

If you can make calculations using these formulas, for example, the EMF on the UFOpolitik generator, you will get the same result when you know exactly what the rotating field in the generator stator is.

kolbacict


Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on July 05, 2022, 12:55:59 AM
So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes away up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi

Hello Bistander,

First, would like to correct maybe a typo?...when you wrote the bold (by me) statement above: "the input current goes away up"
Maybe you meant: the input current goes way up...

Quote from: bistander on July 05, 2022, 12:55:59 AM
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.

I rather go for the second one: lowering the frequency...since I did not apply too high voltage. This Rotor winding could take up to 100 + Volts...and like 2 Amps.
Unfortunately I do not have a PSU that can increase Voltage up to 100-150 Volts...

But, regardless of lowering frequency or speed of Field...Isn't this the same exact response that takes place when we force-stop mechanically the shaft of any brushed (whether Universal or PM) motor while running at full speed plus loaded mechanically?

And I will go to another example...a running and loaded generator...so, let's say something went "south" with the ICE and all the sudden, shaft stopped turning while running loaded, or even went below operational speed to very low rotation...also, let's assume the AVR did not respond in time...what happens then?

Definitively power goes completely off...but beyond that...what happens with all that high amperage retained at stator coils, not "pumping out"?

So, if I were to compare this situations, I rather use a "Liquid Pump" for comparison:

Say a pump running any liquid at high pressures, and all the sudden its propeller stops turning?
All this rush of high pressure liquid, accumulates right at the Intake (Input) gate...while the output stays empty...as stopped propeller blocks flow from  going through...like a closed valve.

I will tell you about another completely opposite "anomaly" that took place on the other side...the Output.

The Input amperage went very low, like 0.68 Amps...and Output Amps went from 4, 5 to 6 Amps...while output voltage dropped down radically...and lamp went off...it happened because a "malfunction" of the rotary switch, where some brushes (out of the four I have) started arcing too much by separation and motor went to too high speed (because friction was released)...

I then slowed motor down and everything went back to normal...but I kept playing with it...to find exactly the reason...

What do you think about it?

Regards


Ufopolitics
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