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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

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rakarskiy

Quote from: alan on July 20, 2022, 09:29:46 AM
Lenz only describes the direction of Ampere. 
What is the reason that you wrote dE?

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg568829/#msg568829

Because these values are synchronous: Bm = E

Lenz cannot describe the direction of Ampère's force, Lenz is a vortex vector. Everything will be chewed in detail in my book, already at the stage of completion.

alan

Quote from: rakarskiy on July 20, 2022, 09:56:24 AM
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg568829/#msg568829

Because these values are synchronous: Bm = E

Lenz cannot describe the direction of Ampère's force, Lenz is a vortex vector. Everything will be chewed in detail in my book, already at the stage of completion.
Normally induced EMF is proportional to the derivative (changing) of B, or E=d(B.s)/dt=dФ/dt, but this is the flux on the inside a circuit only. 
The minus in Faraday's law, EMF=-dФ/dt is Lenz's law, it's only an indicator, the field created by current is according Ampere's law when current and B it produces are proportional. 

"In turn, the induced current causes a magnetic field according to Ampere's Law, which itself has a flux through the closed loop. According to Lenz's law, the direction of the induced current and resultantly the induced magnetic flux opposes the original magnetic flux." 

Or are you saying EMF can create Bm? 
I'm not following it, yet. Looking forward to the theoretical results of your study.

What is, according to your research the most important error in EM theory that needs correction, so OU is made possible?
interesting patent that you posted on your site 
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf

rakarskiy

Quote from: alan on July 20, 2022, 11:42:10 AM
Normally induced EMF is proportional to the derivative (changing) of B, or E=d(B.s)/dt=dФ/dt, but this is the flux on the inside a circuit only. 
The minus in Faraday's law, EMF=-dФ/dt is Lenz's law, it's only an indicator, the field created by current is according Ampere's law when current and B it produces are proportional.


The question arises, you connect the wire to the battery terminals, how should the formula be written? exactly as it is written in all textbooks. Only (dФ) needs to be correctly deciphered.


https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html

SolarLab


As you all re-enter the Lenz Law discussion circle for the umpteenth time, review this 16 Apr 22 post
from OUR (reposted below) while keeping in mind all these Laws are related and interact in one form
or another.

Also, review the LinGen Diagram posted earlier while paying attention to the Lap Coil Winding
physical layout. This might help in visualizing the Lenz action, or lack thereof. (attached below)

------   https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98564#msg98564   -------

Sorry for the long post but this is very important towards understanding (analyzing) Holcomb's and other devices.

Two Electromagnetic Equations - Yield the Same Results

Of the four laws of electromagnetism, let's consider only Lorentz Force and Faraday's Law of induction.
They both arrive at the same answer; but their mechanisms are different. Some may say Faraday's Law
is associated with Lenz whereas Lorentz is not - Faraday deals with an alternating magnetic field - Lorentz
deals with a sweeping (traveling) magnetic field.

Review the earlier "Asymetric transformers - AAbramovich Discussions" section "Equivalence of induction
according to Lorentz and Faraday" and the information below. Note that the differences between Faraday
and Lorentz were never really resolved - history - seems Einstein got in the way - since he couldn't solve
it, he started a new branch of physics - Special Relativity - and further attempts at a resolution faded. Lots
of reading but worth it!

Four Laws of Electromagnetism

https://www.motioncontroltips.com/four-laws-of-electromagnetism-you-should-know/

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/physics/panvini/p110a/lect37c.html

Why Faraday's law and Lorentz force create the same electromotive force?

The Faraday's induction formula (flux rule) of electromagnetism says that the electromotive force (emf)
created in a conducting circuit is equal to the rate at which the magnetic flux through the conducting circuit
changes as it is written on a high school text in physics. This emf can be calculated in two ways: either by
using the Lorentz force formula and calculating the force acting on electrons in the moving conductor of the
circuit; or via one of Maxwell's equations (Faraday's law) and calculating the change of the magnetic flux
penetrating through the circuit. The Lorentz force formula and Maxwell's equations are two distinct physical
laws, yet the two methods yield the same results.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170926085958.htm

Includes a bit more "history" - Faraday's Law of Induction:

https://www.dataforth.com/faradays-law-of-induction.aspx

... "This is not exactly what Faraday described but was called Faraday's Law by Oliver Heaviside. It does not
include the movement emf; that is the force effect Faraday found. The magnetic force is called Lorentz force.
Current flowing in a wire in the presence of a magnetic field will experience a force and move if not restrained.
In this case, magnetic energy is released kinetically." ...
" The previous mention of the relative motion of magnetic field and electric circuit has had considerable thought
by many, well-known physicists. Richard Feynman stated: (1)

So the "flux rule" that the emf in a circuit is equal to the rate of change of the magnetic flux through the circuit
applies whether the flux changes because the field changes or because the circuit moves (or both) ...

Yet in our explanation for the rule we have used two completely distinct laws for the two cases Faraday's Law
equation (both vector quantities: -v x B) for "circuit moves" and Faraday's Law equation (vector: V x E = -dtB)
for "field changes".

We know of no other place in physics where such a simple and accurate general principle requires for its real
understanding an analysis in terms of two different phenomena.

Richard P. Feynman, The Feynman Lectures on Physics
---------------------------------------------------------------

Lorentz Force 3d view animation video (Lorentz is near the end, 6:26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ9YRWYv2cY

------------- Food for thought ---------

Professor Eric Laithwaite: Magnetic River 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU

Professor Eric Laithwaite: Motors Big and Small - 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWiYsRi2Dss


SL