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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on August 08, 2022, 02:01:40 PM
Ufo,
And I think you miss my point on poles. The winding and connection to your commutator determine the number of poles. If that is 4, as I think you show in the diagram with a 4 slot coil span, then the spinning rotor needs a 4 lobe shape, N, S, N, S.
bi
Nope,

And I believe you are thinking that I have brushes wired as a typical 4 brush motor does...and it is not.

On a typical motor we have alternated -/+ or (-/+/-/+), which -as you said- does cut the field in 4 poles or N/S/N/S.

Look at image below...that is the narrow magnetic field angle settings...see the electric polarity of brushes?
So, this way there are some coils not being energized during rotation (the ones within the electric poles of same polarity)...and so, I get a much better sinewave than if I use just two brushes -/+ which divides the field in two poles...and scrambles the whole thing and output drops down.

Hope you see what I am trying to explain.

Regards

Ufopolitics
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bistander

Ufo,
Yep. I think it is unfair to call it a lap winding, or at minimum confusing. This is a lap winding.
https://www.theengineeringknowledge.com/lap-winding-in-dc-machines/

edit:  So at any instant, you are only using 6 out of the 16 coils.
bi


Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on August 08, 2022, 02:50:18 PM
Ufo,
Yep. I think it is unfair to call it a lap winding, or at minimum confusing. This is a lap winding.
https://www.theengineeringknowledge.com/lap-winding-in-dc-machines/

edit:  So at any instant, you are only using 6 out of the 16 coils.
bi

Bistander,

There are many ways to do a Lap Winding...I am not doing it like you have shown...and still, I am doing a Lap Winding.
I am doing it like on this image I had to take my time to convert from the web...pls, let's not stop on small details...it cost me money.
And, of course, since I am doing more than just one turn per coil...it adapts better to the "Duplex Type Lap Winding"...However, the way to hook comm elements to coils is exactly the same.

https://www.electrical4u.com/lap-winding-simplex-and-duplex-lap-winding/

But you are right, on the images I am showing, I am only using 6 out of 16 coils where the center (alternating) coil always stays on, during rotation.
I can have 12 coils in the wide settings...

For these systems, it is better NOT to use ALL Coils on the armature, it will scramble your sinewave, as your output will not be as desired.
Trust me, been there, done that!!

Ufopolitics
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Cadman

Quote from: bistander on August 08, 2022, 12:18:50 PM
Yes, Fig_5, item#130 is identified as mu metal sleeve on pages 30-31. It will not block magnetic field, or flux, so I fail to see a function. And, although I've not read entire document, I don't see a reason or function stated. If they desired to keep flux from being 'conducted' by or through the shaft, why not just use stainless steel (non-magnetic)?
bi

One last comment on this and then I'll shut up about it.

Bi,
Why not use stainless? Cost. Mu-metal could block the path by increasing the reluctance.

Ufo,
The circuit path I'm talking about really only applies to the rotor - stator - outer rotor configuration shown in the patent application I posted.



Ufopolitics

Quote from: Cadman on August 08, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
One last comment on this and then I'll shut up about it.

Ufo,
The circuit path I'm talking about really only applies to the rotor - stator - outer rotor configuration shown in the patent application I posted.

Ok, I see, so Path you were referring to, was only between Rotors...Inner and Outer.

Now I do understand your point, as I do as well, yes, both rotors should be connected magnetically...I agree.

Regards

Ufopolitics
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