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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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rakarskiy

Quote from: SolarLab on January 09, 2023, 01:17:44 PM


Well, we may not see one at the Big Box store any time soon, or ever!

But, since those skilled-in-the-art can actually build them (with minimal effort and resource),
and, since the size can be quite small; just add a "plug" to the box and run what ever this
independant power source is capable of (sort of like a solar cell when your camping, or at the
cottage, or on your boat - and you don't need a battery when the Sun goes away). Lots of
configurations and variations - DC, AC, both, lots of voltage and current combinations, etc..

Handy after an ice-storm or hurricane or whatever as well. Put it in your Tesla or electric bike.

Of course, if you wait for someone else to do it first (as some here spout) then - oh well!

For me - it's a wonderfully educational and exciting hobby...  a lot of fun actually and quite
practical. So, quit wining and start winding!   :)   Plus, you get to learn programming!  :(

Not so simple!

The problem is that even here (who thinks that he knows how the generator works, the usual synchronous one) not everyone understands what exactly needs to be done. You need to know exactly how the EMF occurs in the generator (by a millimeter of the field travel in the stator core). At the same time, both in the mechanical and in the Holcomb generator, a constant magnetic field rotates. The switching is designed to keep this constant flux component. But in any case, the excitation does not form the main field, it provokes it, the main field makes the phase current. These excitation fields and phases must add up. The field rotates in the mode of constant saturation.
Here the questions arise as to how it looks and how it happens to retain saturation from the phase current strength.

And now, many experts who will tell you how it happens? For myself, it was a discovery / insight, but this discovery came from the realization of how the transformer works.
At the same time, physics cannot answer how induction occurs in the groove (there are no / field lines / excitation fields, they are all in the groove rod).

Okay, I've said enough already. In the book, everything will be on the shelves.

PS
Figuera solved the same problem, in principle, a 4-pole synchronous generator, Holcomb and Figuera has a similar configuration, the difference in excitation and Figuera is single-phase.


bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on January 09, 2023, 01:45:56 PM
Hello Bi,

You will need to get images of the interior (rotor core) and since it is based on a 4 pole 3ph gen, then you could go with a Rotor Armature Core which fits inside the Stator diameter (could be pretty tight, since it is not going to rotate)
More likely you will need to have laminations cut for you in a waterjet or a laser jet cutter machine shop...
Or, if you get lucky, you could find a 3 Ph Motor Rotor, which has same length and diameter as generator...saving some time and money...however, it must have at least 72 tooth to wind all your coils...
Note: If you need a CAD drawing of the laminations to be cut, I could do that for you at no cost, given the spec's (like steel gauge of laminations, length, diameter).
Then you will need to calculate the wire gauge and # of turns required to produce same Field strength (per pole) as the normal Generator Rotor does, based on its own self exciting system of coils on the stator...I imagine it would be a brushless type 3 ph generator.
But I am sure, you would not have any problems on your calculations, since you are an expert on these fields.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Thanks Ufo,
How did you arrive at a 72 tooth rotor?
bi

Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on January 09, 2023, 02:22:02 PM
Thanks Ufo,
How did you arrive at a 72 tooth rotor?
bi

Yes Bi,

That was just a number divisible by four [ànd real] (I read it was a 4 pole generator on your pdf, so, in order not to touch your stator...you will need the same exact pole width config average tooth running at sequences.
Once you get Diameter on Stator plus tooth arc size, then the rotor config would be achieved.

On a 72 tooth, you will have 18 tooth per pole, of which one could be at idle per pole leaving just 16-17.
If you want more resolution (higher number of coils per pole) you could go for a higher number...however, they must always be divisible by 4.
I assume that generator rotor would have four huge tooth, spaced at 90º, which will allow for four big windings, in a thinner wire and hundreds of turns...but that rotor would not work for these systems.

I mean, it could also be a 36 tooth rotor...however, that would reduce the resolution in half.
Good thing is that a 4 rotor pole will require half frequency than a 2 pole....in our case 1800 RPM´s or 30 Hz.

Ufopolitics
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bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on January 09, 2023, 02:39:41 PM
Yes Bi,

That was just a number divisible by four (I read it was a 4 pole generator on your pdf, so, in order not to touch your stator...you will need the same exact pole width average tooth running at sequences.
Once you get Diameter on Stator plus tooth arc, then the rotor config would be achieved.

On a 72 tooth, you will have 18 tooth per pole, of which one could be at idle per pole leaving just 16-17.
If you want more resolution (higher number of coils per pole) you could go for a higher number...however, they must always be divisible by 4.
I assume that generator rotor would have four huge tooth, spaced at 90º, which will allow for four big windings, in a thinner wire and hundreds of turns...but that rotor would not work for these systems.

I mean, it could also be a 36 tooth rotor...however, that would reduce the resolution in half.
Good thing is that a 4 rotor pole will require half frequency than a 2 pole....in our case 1800 RPM´s or 30 Hz.

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
Thanks for the prompt reply. Resolution, as I figured, coming from you. This is a point of disagreement with me. Using a 3-phase sinusoidal AC source produces a constant magnitude rotating magnetic field. Relative to a fixed point in the air gap, the flux is smooth, continuous uninterrupted so needs no further resolution. Even if the 3-phase AC is derived via a VFD, the inductive reactance of the winding coils will smooth the current waveform. Modulation or carrier frequency of VFD's of which I've used range from 2k to 12kHz. Having "scoped" current many times, resolution is not an issue. For your devices, do as you wish. And btw, Holcomb shows that 16 tooth 4 pole rotor, remember?
I'm interested in SL's "minimal effort and resource" configuration is.
bi

{edit} btw, it would still be at 60Hz.

rakarskiy

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"Electromagnetic induction device for generation of electrical power" US8847720B2

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QuoteThe only external power source required by these generators is a battery that supplies current for the initial DC cycle(s) to a high frequency DC to AC switch in the computer control module, which then passes the high frequency AC current to the inductors. This creates high frequency cyclic magnetic fields which induce voltage and current in the wires of a number of surrounding inductors, like the output of a generator. Some of this current is available to the load and can be adjusted so that voltage, current, number of phases and frequency can be supplied. The other part of the induced current output of the inductor is fed back to the inductors, supplying current for subsequent cycles, and then the battery is removed from the circuit.

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PS
Dála an scéil, má ghlacann tú dearadh Holcomb áit a bhfuil dhá rótar aige agus nach bhfágann tú ach an chuid seachtrach den rotor / stator, é a bhriseadh ina thimthriallta, is féidir leat an algartam atá ag teastáil a fháil.