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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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listener192

Quote from: rakarskiy on August 12, 2023, 01:31:24 AM
An example of an open code of electricity generation occurred early in the of the electromagnetic induction era, Faraday's discovery of the law of electromagnetic induction, based on his induction coil on a circular iron core.  Faraday published in the Royal Journal information about his discovery.  Faraday was provided with a description of an electromagnetic generator in a letter, planted under his door, by an unknown person who signed himself with the letters (P.M.). At the same time Faraday did not understand the conception, and to ask a question, published the text of the letter in the Royal Journal, asking for clarification.  After a while, a letter signed in the same letters, with explanations and drawings, was sent to the journal. According to the drawings, the world's first alternator was made (Tesla is not the author of the alternator). Unfortunately at that time there was no possibility to use this generator.

There are many questions here, exactly to the genius author, and his mastery of information (from my point of view this person should have known everything exactly). At the same time, Faraday did not understand how in details the EMF is induced in the generator (the principle of which is used in power plants), and continued his research, having discovered unipolar (contact) electromagnetic induction. Holcomb's generator works on the same principle as the very first generator (P.M.).  And the fact that the whole "enlightened" audience looks at all this, and claps their eyes, says that following Faraday, the incomprehensions have remained to this day. An example is that "advanced experts" have mixed the phase rotor action of a synchronous motor with the principle of a synchronous generator.
And the salt of this is that even the information provided did not give instant results, and 99% did not know about it in principle.

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Faradays paper published  close to the end of March 1832. It reads: 'The mutual relation of electricity, magnetism and motion may be represented by three lines at right angles to each other, any one of which may represent any one of these points and the other two lines the other points. Then if electricity be determined in one line and motion in another, magnetism will be developed in the third; or if electricity be determined in one line and magnetism in another, motion will occur in the third. Or if magnetism be determined first then motion will produce electricity or electricity motion. Or if motion be the first point determined, Magnetism will evolve electricity or electricity magnetism'.


The French instrument maker, Hippolyte Pixii (1808–1835), built a crude electric generator as early as 1832, based directly on Faraday's ideas of induction as defined in the March 1832 paper.
The device consisted of a hand operated spinning magnet above a coil with an iron core inside. A current pulse in the coil was produced each time one of the two poles of the magnet passed over it. However, what was being produced was an alternating (AC) current as the direction of the induced current changed with each half turn of the magnet.


As there was no real use for AC currents at this time (its advantages would only become apparent later) a means had to be found to convert this into a direct (DC) current. A suggestion by Ampère and others led to the introduction of the commutator—a rotary switch that reverses the connection to the external circuit when the current reverses, giving a pulsing DC current instead of an AC one.


Soon after Pixii's invention, others began to produce their own similar devices. Two London-based instrument makes to note were the American, Joseph Saxon, and the Englishman, Joseph Clarke. By the mid-1830s, such machines were producing a range of different effects of induced electric currents, from chemical decompositions to sparks, all by turning a handle that rotated a magnet.


The first important practical application of Faraday's discovery, however, was not the electric generator but the telegraph. Based on the ability to control a magnet at a distance, this invention allowed the possibility of long distance communication that would connect the world.

Where did you obtain the information regarding the unidentified individual with the initials P.M.  ?


L192

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rakarskiy

Quote from: listener192 on August 12, 2023, 09:29:20 AM
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg581198/#msg581198

This fact is described by some researchers. In particular, if you look at this "slide" you can find the source. I asked my friends to find a screenshot of the journal page but alas these materials are not available. And there's a reason why. As you can see, not all the story you know from your narrative is true.
This is the slide I posted in my piece on Holcomb.



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listener192

You are misinformed about the availability of the journal in question.

For those that are interested here is the publication https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/53496#page/179/mode/1up     page 161


This occured after the publication of Faradays Paper and not neccessarily before Hippolyte Pixii's device became knowledge.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hippolyte_Pixii_dynamo.png     and many other sources state Pixii was the first.

The source of your information , a Scottish Professor Patrick John McLaughlin, in a 1948 publication Studies: An Irish Quarterly Review, article  "The Irish Inventor of the Dynamo", has taken a position that P.Ms device was published before anyone else.

At the moment I don't have the complete text of this article to verify his references, but I would not automatically assume they are correct.

I would think the reason why this particular generator has not been included in mainstream history, is more to do with the gentlemans proclivity to anonymity rather than deliberate exclusion, after all Faraday was happy to get P.M. published.


I don't see any distortion in history regarding Faraday, he was not known to have produced a practical working generator either AC or commutated AC.


Perhaps you are just trying to create your own narrative about Faraday in your blog spot!


There were many that worked on generator designs after  Faraday published his paper.


L192

lancaIV

Who was (the) first ? Important !?
https://www.rug.nl/museum/collections/collection-stories/wagentje-van-stratingh?lang=en
So a Deutscher/Dutch invented and used it,long before Benz !? ( Netherlands = Deutsche Bund member )

In Nieder-Deutsch/-Dutch,hollaendisch-' platt'
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibrandus_Stratingh
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritz_von_Jacobi
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Motor_Jacobi.jpg


But does it interests, HES related ?
When the system does function,the process anymore patentable,others their priority claim/s as public ownership,today without comercial validation =no fee-/royalty paying need or no licence need ,this is for the consumer unimportant !
Safety,price,maintenance,trust = warranted !
wmbr
OCWL

listener192

Quote from: lancaIV on August 12, 2023, 11:38:22 AM
Who was (the) first ? Important !?
https://www.rug.nl/museum/collections/collection-stories/wagentje-van-stratingh?lang=en
So a Deutscher/Dutch invented and used it,long before Benz !? ( Netherlands = Deutsche Bund member )
But does it interests, HES related ?
When the system does function,the process anymore patentable,others their priority claim/s as public ownership,today without comercial validation =no fee-/royalty paying need or no licence need ,this is for the consumer unimportant !
Safety,price,maintenance,trust = warranted !
wmbr
OCWL
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Yes, you are correct we are deviating from the point.


Quoting  Rakarskiy  "Holcomb's generator works on the same principle as the very first generator (P.M.)" 


Perhaps a more poignant question is "Does Holcomb's generator function as an overunity device" The USPTO does not seem to think so.


L192