Capture Radiant Energy via Coils

[Grumpy]

Hey!  You forgot to include John Bedini - he uses capacitors to capture the radiant energy too.

Mark Goldes - CEO of MPI - stated on another site that an additional element was required for the Gunderson device to work and that this would be added in an ammendement to the patent at a later time - who knows what that could be?

This topic: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1827.0
illustrates a device that appears similar to Gunderson's.  Probably have a better chance at duplicating that than the MPI patent application.

Rather than copying and duplicating - construct an idea of how and why these devices work and then do your own experiments and develop your own device  - or develop one together - as a team. 

TAO's description is a good place to start.

[starcruiser]

I have started to test this theory using my current TPU, I read the link that Grumpy posted in the other thread and it gave me a few ideas. My current testing is using a spark gap feeding a collector coil and using the associated control coils as the radiant energy collector/primary and the feedback coil as the secondary.

Detail....

My testing setup is using an ignition coil as the high voltage source (for now) which uses a GM control module as the coil control using a audio generator as the trigger source. This feeds the collector coil and so far has revealed that the control coils do infact pickup the electrostatic voltage.

I am using the control coils as the radiant energy collector and the primary of a step down transformer, the feedback is the secondary of the transformer. The results so far has shown that with 30kv in from the ignition coil, I get over 1200v out measured on the feedback coil (open circuit), with a 13k load resistor connected across the feedback coil I get approx 200vp-p. My scope reveals a ringing signal. I have not changed the control coil configuration from Ottos yet. I plan on changing this today to see what effect/changes I get.

My questions to be answered currently are;

By changing the control coils to a series configuration do they provide increased output?

If they do, If the feedback coil is wound in a reversed coil (transformer winding) improve output?

The most important question is, do these changes change the waveform to generate a more positive pulse output?

My Current TPU design used is;

Collector coils  15 turns 16 AWG stranded lamp cord wound clockwise for a 6" diameter coil

Control coils, 4 per layer each with 170 turns 30AWG magnet wire, spaced 1/2' apart.

Feedback coil, 17 turns of a single 16AWG wire over each control coil, series connected.

COnsiderations

Do I need to change the TPU design to a single control coil/radiant energy collector?

Is a second coil over the control coils needed to improve the coupling transformer?

Do I need to wrap the feedback or second coil opposing the other previous coils?

So far the tests I performed show more promise than the pulsed control coils. So I will continue to test variations of the TPU using this concept.

An observation, after reviewing the EV gray doco from the link Grump posted and reviewing the pix that were recently posted of closeups of the 18' TPU and its center coils, this now looks like a simple set of transformers (10:1 roughly). COuld these of been the signal sources conversion transformer which priovides the step up action to charge the Caps?

There was another pix that showed an open wire coming from the large TPU (stranded). could this of been a radiant energy collector wire? (I say this since the collector only requires a single connection which is fed to the primary of the step down/isolation transformer, which the other side is connected to ground.

The other item or interest is the item that looks like a fuse, could this be his spark gap? I think he may be using either a blown fuse or a xeon strobe bulb (I know this is far fetched but I am not sure about the characteristics of these).

In this EV gray doco Grumpy linked us to EV gray is using a Triode as a gate/diode to trigger the spark and prevent the oscillations from the spark gap and create a unidirectional flow. My thought is can we use a high voltage diode from a microwave oven to replace the Triode to create the unidirectional flow while still using a simple high voltage souce (Ignition coil)? Or do we need to look to use a 555 timer, a step up transformer (10:1 or 20:1), a diode bridge and another device to trigger the discharge of the cap and ensure the unidirectional flow?

I will continue on my current path with the TPU as it is and try a few wiring variations first, then consider changing (or making a new TPU) using the coil variations I mentioned above.

I will post more when I have anything to share. Hopefully this post makes sense and provides some usefull info.

[giantkiller]

(The following text taken from 'The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity' by Peter A Lindemann and looks likely to be the basis of the SM TPU)

Tesla accidentally discovered an electrostatic "super-charging" effect while trying to verify Hertz' discovery of electro-magnetic waves. After hundreds of experiments, he learned how to control and maximize this phenomenon. This led him to the discovery that electricity is made up of different components, that can be separated from each other, and that a pure, gaseous etheric energy can be fractionated away from
the flow of electrons in a circuit designed to produce short duration, unidirectional impulses. When all the conditions were right, this gaseous, etheric energy would manifest itself as a spatially distributed voltage that would radiate away from the electrical circuit as a "light-like ray" that could charge other surfaces within the field.

From now on, I would like to refer to this phenomenon as "The Electro-Radiant Event" and summarize its characteristics as follows:

1. The Electro-Radiant Event is produced when a high-voltage, direct
   current is discharged across a spark gap and interrupted abruptly
   before any reversals of current can occur.

2. This effect is greatly increased when the source of direct current is
   a charged capacitor.

3. The Electro-Radiant Event leaves wires and other circuit
  components perpendicular to the flow of current.

4. The Electro-Radiant Event produces a spatially distributed voltage
   that can be thousands of times higher than the initial spark
   discharge voltage.

5. It propagates instantaneously as a longitudinal, electrostatic "light-
   like ray" that behaves similarly to an incompressible gas under
   pressure.

6. Electro-Radiant effects are solely characterized by impulse duration
   and voltage drop in the spark gap.

7. Electro-Radiant effects penetrate all materials and create
  ?electronic responses? in metals like copper and silver. In this case,
  ?electronic responses? means that an electrical charge will build up
  on copper surfaces exposed to Electro-Radiant emissions.

8. Electro-Radiant impulses shorter than 100 microseconds are
  completely safe to handle and will not cause shock or harm.

9. Electro-Radiant impulses shorter than 100 nanoseconds are cold
   and easily cause lighting effects in vacuum globes.


The "Electro-Radiant Event" is essentially the "gain mechanism" that Tesla discovered that is the basis of his Magnifying Transmitter. It is the foundation of his claim that he was able to create more energy in his output than it took to initiate it in his input.

http://satanicsingles.com/library/The_Free_Energy_Secrets_of_Cold_Electricity.pdf

Like a match in gasoline, splitting atoms to a nucelar explosion, a little vibration to Nitro glycerine. And its labeled as cold because the 'fire', 'Explosion', the force propulsion happens at a higher frequency from us or the burning of oxygen.

--giantkiller. And that it why Tesla could sit in the field of blue sparks.

[giantkiller]

So here is the migratory path of the energy production,
1: Kicks? what are kicks and where do they come from? (Remember those days?)

2: Kicks are no problem to achieve or consistently produce for some of us .That is really easy to do once you realize the the potential in has to exceed the volume of copper. For instance, magwire compared to the higher gauge. But harvesting is a problem. Why? Enough production does not equal enough power. You touch the small radient energy with any metal and it doesn't show up. Alot of us have seen this.

3: Up the energy. It has been consistantly shown to use caps. I take it you use them on the input to the coil not the output like alot of previous attempts.

--giantkiller. This a great way to start off the week! Thanks guys. I thought I was going to get a rest but 11 days left.

[sonny]

Thanks for the post Arcon.