More clairifaction of floors Twist Drive

[Tarsier_79]

A lighter weight lifts a heavier weight does not immediately mean OU. We need usable energy output on top of the reset.

This is where I was mistaken before. For the machine to be unity, the input = output, in your case we lift 105g x 22 units to operate through the cycle. So above on the output we need to lift and leave that equivalent. Any more is OU, any less is less than unity.

I hope you ordered ceramic magnets, ones that are practically identical
to those described in videos and other descriptions.

The use  of neodymium magnets will cause a fail.
Those require special adaptations of  the device.

I hope you (please) will not improvise changes or what might perhaps appear to
improvements to the magnets or their interactions.

Why aren't Neo magnets suitable? I ordered Neo 35s. If they won't work I can always order ceramics. My build will not be as substantial as yours. My goal is to first achieve an equivalent (or close to) action and results as seen in your video.

If I can get to that point, my next goal is to increase efficiency by using eccentric pulleys and then attempt to either lift and leave PE on the output side or investigate resetting the system with a smaller weight.

[Willy]

This is where I was mistaken before. For the machine to be unity, the input = output, in your case we lift 105g x 22 units to operate through the cycle. So above on the output we need to lift and leave that equivalent. Any more is OU, any less is less than unity.

Your statement above is too ambiguous I cannot respond, except that, for the
moment I believe that it is incorrect.

Why aren't Neo magnets suitable? I ordered Neo 35s.

There are multiple reasons. The one that matters most here, is that a REPLICATION is
what is needed.  Not another design nor a modification nor an innovation.

If you don't want to do a replication that is ok by me.

In which case, you should start a new topic for that "new design" on the main board
or something.

[Willy]

The twist drive interactions and results, although they might seem so,  are
not particularly exceptional.  They are not over unity in and of their selves.

Using a strong magnet falling through the closed circuit wire  coil as the 'output' / reset
yields more energy. Other wise as stated, the twist drive (full cycling) gives
unity only.

A strong magnet falling through the closed circuit wire coil can, at best, yield only that
which was required to initially lift it.

That's the deal.

But a strong magnet falling through a closed circuit coil does not lose is own weight, curious as that is.

It can therefore reset the twist drive even though its fall is producing electric energy
in that coil.

The twist drive, can in return, lift that falling through a later closed circuit coil, magnet, to a height
which is greater ( for the amount of energy expended via the twist drive input), than if
that falling magnet were just simply, lifted. 

But only so, because the complete cycling of the twist dive includes this seemingly
(but not actually) over unity within that cycle.


EDITS

[Willy]

Files attached below again.

[Tarsier_79]

The fact is, very many who have viewed this topic, but also, are knowledgeable in this field,
understand that the twist drive / falling magnet combination, is more energy out than in.

When you lift the 105g x 22units, you physically input that relative energy into the system. What is the output?:+ 115x40 (up) - 115x40(down) = 0 *

Perhaps I asked the wrong question or don't understand properly.... You need the 115g weight on the output to reset the input with the 105g removed?

It seems to me (if that is the case) that your video shows more energy in than out.