Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations

[Feb2006]

oh boy.
we can speculate on word: idiot
were some will prove that :
-idiot is not an idiot at all
-idiot is not an idiot and longer
-word: idiot is not an insult , except when it is.
and some others will say that idiot doesn't exist, because clinical idiot is still  smarter than average animal
and we are all animals..

Wesley

Are you talking about your self or someone else?
I dont think that word has a place in an intelligent conversation
Or in any conversation.
The need to use these words aren't very intelligent.

[stivep]

 PART #2



_{part#1 is here Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations « Reply #7 on: Today at 09:23:21 PM »}

continuation in : Part #2   
1986 Eric Dollard, Tom Brown & Bob Beck .
Crazy time , no internet yet.

Longitudinal wave - a wave whose displacement is in the direction of motion. Pushing a slinky in from one end sends a compressive wave towards the other end. [/font]

but this is a mechanical wave that is based on classical physics not on quantum physics.

the entire discussion here is to find if the window left by Maxwell can fit something that is forbidden, secret, where public is stripped from the access to it
and it is sanctioned or anyhow omitted,
so please look in this CIA the US intelligence agency paper:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

quote:

there is a community in US that believes that the scholar waves are realizable.In the recent conference sponsored by IEEE those were openly discussed
and proceedings on this conference exists. The conference was dedicated to Nikola Tesla and his workThe papers presented claimed - some of Tesla's work ,used Scalar Wave concepts.
there is an implied "Tesla Connection" in all of this.

The participants of that IEEE and activists names are crossed with the black
rectangle so we cannot read who this paper was talking about.but we assume that CIA has in mind names of the people listed in part oneof my writing here.

The most puzzling me is the date at the end of the CIA article
12/ 22/87
please compare  group listed in part #1 Borderland Sciences  we are talking about  them!!! right?
And person name on the top of this CIA  paper is Dr Vorona
likely:Nazar Vorona  Senior Researcher of Russian Academy of Science

listed also as:
Nazar Vorona Senior Researcher, Joint Institute for High Temperatures, Russian Academy of Science
Verified email at ihed.ras.ru   https://jiht.ru/en/about/

and the question I have is:
was CIA writing to Russian scientists?

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Pre-conclusion
although longitudinal electromagnetic wave is never proven
it is the subject of speculation in some thoroughly corrupted parts of the word.
in some countries where everyone is stealing, corrupting, using and abusing
despite he is scientist or corrupted government worker, or Deputy or President
everything is for sale and everything can be felt obligated,


more is coming in part #3

Wesley

[stivep]

Are you talking about your self or someone else?

please read my comment again and learn English if you're not fluent in it.
I made some addition for you to understand it better.
It is about perception of the word in given context.
Wesley

[ramset]

If I might interrupt


It is not the best use of an extensive vocabulary....
And typically results in a first volley to a flame war...( highly unpopular with our host)


Aside from that ... ..bad manners in this venue ( poor choice of noun)


Also I read references here which I cannot find in original documents posted by Feb2006
( some names written above  seem used for disqualification of data or "maths" ??

Feb2006 link again
http://scalarphysics.com/resources/thomas_minderle/thomas_minderle-a_brief_introduction_to_scalar_physics.pdf
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Yes I do see an addendum was added to post regarding colorful noun !


Wesley
Added Edit
quote


"My comment corresponds with philosophical value of the word idiot in the content.
The language used has nothing to do with pointing at someone or any form of inflammatory connotation.
it talks about, perception in relation to application.
We appliquéd with the word "idiot" but we may not talk about reality it/ - the clinical idiot. (Medical field)
We  also appliquéd with the  word "longitudinal wave"
but when we use the rejected scientifically word (descriptor) "longitudinal electromagnetic wave"
then someone will suspect that this is a joke, or idiotic joke.
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word "appliquéd"  = give a romantic look
We dont need romantic science , we need true science.!!!!
End quote

[stivep]

  PART #3

The final formulations of Maxwell's electromagnetic equations were originally written in quaternions. Once returned to that form and treated with left and right hand operators as in the mathematics of P. M. Jack, a new seventh scalar electromagnetic field component emerges with possible relations to clean energy extraction and gravitation. Historical and present uses within military and humanitarian contexts are discussed. Scalar wave speeds are derived.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations

it is also worth to say that the article was written by:
Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations.  Jeremy Dunning-Davies, Departments of Mathematics and Physics (retd), University of Hull, England;
and
Richard Lawrence Norman, Editor in chief, Mind magazine Journal of Unconscious Psychology Former Scientific Advisor Thunder Energies Corporation

so Jeremy is retired and now he can say much more than he could when he was working.
and
Richard is in business and needs the stories.
money talks as long as it sales.
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So written in quaternions _{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion}
formulation gave the room to existence of
scalar electromagnetic wave (longitudinal electromagnetic wave) but that doesn't mean that  it exists.
it is just mathematical possibility.
In reality that someone may say:
"You can't have -1 apple you either have apple/s or you don't have it."
however there is a possibility that sometime in the future you may need one more apple
So you are short of 1 apple for a given application, but that doesn't mean that now, you don't have apples at all.

In analogy to  an apple
we may have more  Maxwell  equations on the shelf now
but only four  fundamental Maxwell  equations
are in use and published most of the time as this is
what we are in need for.
- when we  start to talk about  scalar wave (-" longitudinal" electromagnetic wave)
than we  are short of  one equation that is  there  on the shelf but is not used
because it mathematically creates more  confusion to already confusing quantum physics.
Apart from that  (this  mathematics) is completely conflicting with physics  of today.

While looking at that particular paper _{https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343095623_Deductions_from_the_Quaternion_Form_of_Maxwell's_Electromagnetic_Equations}
we see in page 2
_{(the pages have no number written, so just try to find page 2)} quote:

designs based in the science of  T. Brown  that  have  been practically  utilized

And we know that name. The name of T. Brown - the Thom Brown from Borderland Sciences
is the same guy? one of the heroes of four? Re: Deductions from the Quaternion Form of Maxwell's Electromagnetic Equations  « Reply #7 on: Today at 09:23:21 PM »
is that what that CIA paper was talking about?
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf


on the same page of the article
we have quote:

Government  papers and related books state quite plainly that electromagnetic theory inclusive of a new  scalar component is indeed being used to gain these effects and, that this  same  science  has  been  weaponized,  and  also  utilized  to  gain  clean energies  as well  as  biological effects

more is coming in part number four

Wesley