Is this the beginning of the end?

[stivep]

What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..
//I call rubbish.
I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit.

Great comment. thank you.
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Ask your wife about the truth regarding the 'trinity'.  She looks like a nice woman. 

She is definitely on the site of modern science now.
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This is a humorous essay.

I was right predicting that You "alan" will not respond to my  question About "trinity"
Why it is stated that  "trinity" is male not female?
And because of it does this entity have  3 penises or just one?
Or may be it is a vaginal entity posing not only as one but as three male in one... for its own reason.
making itself a very much natural LGBT.?
I wonder how sexual fantasies of this entity looks like if any..?
- we have it... so it should  too - as we were made as a picture  of it, right?
_{Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image}

So again do you have "balls" to respond precisely to  this male claim of trinity?
or you don't have "balls"  ready for that?

_{opinion expressed is my own ..}
Wesley

[alan]

Who is the God of Israel to you, who made himself known as YHWH to his covenant people? 
Your 'understanding' of the trinity is based on roman catholicism, you need the word of God that was given to the jews to keep and preserve. This will teach us, even the Lord Jesus Christ says so about the tanankh or old testament/covenant. 

The birthright of the jews is (in) the tanakh, it explains why a jew is named jew, and israel is called israel, etcetc. The right of christians is Jesus Christ, believers in Christ are put in the birthright and blessing of Abraham through faith alone in the atonement.
What is a jew without the old testament or a christian without Jesus Christ?

Gen 25:26  And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them. 
Jacob, heel holder or supplanter

Gen 29:35  And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.
Judah, jehudim, jew: praised, celebrated. 


Gen 32:24  And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
Gen 32:25  And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
Gen 32:26  And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 
Gen 32:27  And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. 
Gen 32:28  And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 
Gen 32:29  And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 

Israel, 'God Contended', 'Wrestles with God', 'Triumphant with God'. 

where'd you come from, where'd you go.   lol 

Trinity isn't in the bible, but this is: 
1Jn 5:7  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I don't understand your question or  intention, so I gave you some facts.

[stivep]

I don't understand your question or  intention, so I gave you some facts.

The base for action:
I assume you understand with all do respect to your spiritual and other values that:
-New York subway is accessible only to holders, of approved valid pass, ticket (- other animals have free ride)
-PhD in physics is given only to holders, of approved valid ticket called:(Ph.D - dissertation)
-Statement in based on models  physics :   states = makes facts known.
-Your spiritual state of mind is not used by Biology, Anthropology, History of Earth, however,
Archeologist may be interested why and how Inquisition persecuted your grand grand-pa. ?

The base for action is:
_{According to :
Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image}


Avoiding questions, side kicking, doesn't make you respected part of conversation here,
Logical thinking-  implements reasonable solutions rather than acting solely on emotions.
You were ask :
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine  of god according to your dogma?
2. - male organs of God are the necessity for its Manlihood .So god may masturbate  physically too - including all function of his  organ. _{-concept of trinity  becomes more complicated.}
3. -  People use form : "holly shit" 
       since it is definitely stated that _{Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image I'm interested how holly "shit" looks like, and what is made of?}
4. - It was Adam and Eve  and what ? Brother with sister?, father with  daughter? INCEST? But Dog with dog, _{also mammal} was OK  ? 
      How was it?  And God what?  didn't  oppose?..  O yea Sodom and Gomorrah  was  impossible - not enough humans yet to punish right?

I didn't disrespect spiritual values I only ask questions
Please provide answers to these questions can you?

Wesley

[alan]

All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes).  Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.

Luk 8:4  And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
Luk 8:5  A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
Luk 8:6  And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
Luk 8:7  And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
Luk 8:8  And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Luk 8:11  Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
Luk 8:12  Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luk 8:13  They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Luk 8:14  And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
Luk 8:15  But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

1Pe 1:23  Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Rom 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
1Co 1:18  For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20  Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21  For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22  For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

[stivep]

All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes).  Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.
Luk 8:11 The seed is the word of God.
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Your response can't  pass even high school exam.
question invites the other person to share their own opinion e.g denying or admitting, interpreting.. - means providing  answer .
Precisely formulated by me questions  are expecting  your own answer where quoted text is used as a reference only.
You responded  with quotes  but Your answer is not present.
_{creating-strong-answers-conversation}
My questions were numbered  for you to respond to them one by one.
Please use these numbers, to provide your own answer _{(with your own interpretation of quoted text,)} precisely to the point
Show me the  power of your brain...Show me your value as a contributor  to the discussion. What is your  limit on how high "you can fly" ?

Can you?

Wesley