Is this the beginning of the end?

[onepower]

Cloxxki

On the generation side, I can imagine wind and solar are much more labor intensive than large scale power stations.
A lot of people work in oil mining and surveying, though.

A person has to be careful because there is a lot of fake news and propaganda against renewables.

For example, I have worked in the oil and gas sector and power generation so I know how stuff actually works. A power station running on natural gas is dependent on and includes all the wells drilled, compressor stations, Dehydrators and countless miles of leaking pipe. So an average gas well is running $3 million times 300 wells in a small field times 200 plus miles of gas pipe at $1 million a mile plus all associated infrastructure which could easily be depleted by a small 500 megawatt cogen station in around 20 years or so. The problem is the damage due to the pollution generated by the plant could cost more than the billion dollar plus installation cost not including recycling or reclamation.

Solar has a basic one time cost much lower than fossil fuels and has zero fuel running costs. The only pollution is associated with the production and recycling of the materials used. Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year and I would gladly buy everyone's used 25 year old panels at 75% power for 75% less cost, it's a real bargain. Everyone is already buying all the used solar panels and EV battery packs. But obviously nobody is buying the used pipeline rotting in the ground, abandoned wells or rusting worn out power stations. 

So let's stop bullshitting everyone and if we added up all the real costs, 100% recycling and reclamation of all infrastructure/land as well as all environmental damage fossil fuels will always lose. Fossil fuels will not just lose but get there ass kicked and handed there hat by renewables.

AC

[BorisKrabow]

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[Paul-R]

Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year...

This is true but, in all fairness, one should compute in the likelihood that technology will improve and the panels will be scrapped or sold on and replaced with better ones.

[BorisKrabow]

This is true but, in all fairness, one should compute in the likelihood that technology will improve and the panels will be scrapped or sold on and replaced with better ones.

New technologies have emerged that overshadow solar panels and windmills. And they work 24/7 .

  On the news page, a self-charging ionistor is looking at you . One of the options is under testing. This microscopically sized cell is made specifically to deplete its energy faster. But I'm not succeeding yet, the energy has been coming all the time for more than half a year.  I can't test it for a million years .       

[Cloxxki]

Cloxxki
A person has to be careful because there is a lot of fake news and propaganda against renewables.

For example, I have worked in the oil and gas sector and power generation so I know how stuff actually works. A power station running on natural gas is dependent on and includes all the wells drilled, compressor stations, Dehydrators and countless miles of leaking pipe. So an average gas well is running $3 million times 300 wells in a small field times 200 plus miles of gas pipe at $1 million a mile plus all associated infrastructure which could easily be depleted by a small 500 megawatt cogen station in around 20 years or so. The problem is the damage due to the pollution generated by the plant could cost more than the billion dollar plus installation cost not including recycling or reclamation.

Solar has a basic one time cost much lower than fossil fuels and has zero fuel running costs. The only pollution is associated with the production and recycling of the materials used. Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year and I would gladly buy everyone's used 25 year old panels at 75% power for 75% less cost, it's a real bargain. Everyone is already buying all the used solar panels and EV battery packs. But obviously nobody is buying the used pipeline rotting in the ground, abandoned wells or rusting worn out power stations. 

So let's stop bullshitting everyone and if we added up all the real costs, 100% recycling and reclamation of all infrastructure/land as well as all environmental damage fossil fuels will always lose. Fossil fuels will not just lose but get there ass kicked and handed there hat by renewables.

AC

Indeed, a lot of jobs will be lost in the death of the fussil fuel industry, and from where I'm sitting, renewable are pretty darn efficient on the labor side. You are giving me a longer life span indication on solar than I understood it to be. Assuming you're right, OU will need to simply be even better for it to beat solar.