100 watts output with 60ma input

[garrypm]

Hi Joel,


Can you tell a little more about the battery please?


You mentioned it was one that you pulsed to resurect?


Many Thanks,
Garry

[joellagace]

Yes I had to pulse it for over 2 weeks on a mechanical Bedini style wheel back emf energizer.  I friend had dropped off like 5-6 batteries and I tried to revive them all with mixed results, This one being the most responsive to the treatment. Now I just use because it keeps and runs a load nice, because testing it now, Without charging at all and just discharging it, It runs for hours while running that 100 watt load before going low when not charging.

Free is free right!

[joellagace]

I also get similar results using the back emf pulse directly charging into the battery and bypassing the cap dump stage. I still think the cap dump is a better method, how ever I tried with my big coil direct as per requested in some comments by users that I try as such and so I did and it also works in many ways similar. It's just word of caution I read some batteries don't like pure radiant spikes and could harm them so with that said keep that in mind as to why I'm also more into cap dumping methods.

Here is the video showing almost the same effect.

(https://img.youtube.com/vi/9GGE0H6qsOM/maxresdefault.jpg)

[Dog-One]

I really wish there was a lead/acid battery made that has a dual set of
electrodes.  That way one could pull a load from one set of electrodes
while hitting the other set with back EMF.  If we had that, then we could
swap electrodes to reverse the process that might be damaging to the
battery.

I also think a test against a lead-calcium/acid battery might be worthwhile.
There's a good chance this formula may be more back EMF tolerant.


Kudos to your setup Joel.  Very practical experiment.

By the way, are you using an alternate for your SCR and neon trigger yet?
Or still waiting on parts?

Just FYI, I recall sometime in the past Paul Babcock demonstrated
using a large spool of wire like you have, showing the drastic increase in
arcing across a small gap.  His conclusion was that energy from
someplace was getting added in from the mass of all that copper,
which I think Joseph Newman also claimed.  So there's a good chance
what you are doing is following right in those guys' footsteps.  The
trick now is to capture that energy without destroying the storage
medium.

[joellagace]

No I'm still waiting for parts, I found them on aliexpress for very good price but that takes months, looking for some more local "amazon" links or alike. My old parts where too low values so now I have to order larger values and that cost more money so stand by all

Yes your correct we need to make big large coil with the most less impedance as possible but have many windings at the same time for the back emf. So to do so we use big large coper wires and that builds big heavy coil! And if you want to factor resonance at the proper frequency the whole thing L resonance acts like a "super conductor" at the frequency so I assume we want to aim for that if we can as well.

Another thing we have to do is fast switching and the off time also makes a big difference. Transistors are fine for switching on but there is a lag on the "off" time in relative to mosfets. And that is where the big spike of "power" comes in with this stuff as the combo of the sharp spike and how fast we can turn (kill) the coil power. If your doing it right, your parts like mine blow up across the room like Bedini also experienced.

Your correct we just need to find a method to tame and store this massive energy without destroying.