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Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

Started by am1ll3r, March 02, 2023, 07:32:40 PM

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Cloxxki

A set of strong magnets that are locked together, we can twist to release. If we the angle one magnet to attract the other, we can easily a few fingers in the quick snap back together. No gain there, but we COULD restain the hand held magnet before aligning it, much like the one-way bearing is doing here.
If that 3-phase or whatever to call that offset always requires less torque to twist off one and be attracted by the next, that's quite something. Why they'd not have a good runner with their sizable setup then seems puzzling, even if at low rpm.
Sure, a jagging rotation is to be expected, but could one not simply add more offsets in smaller increments to smoothen that out? A well designed (calculated) non-round cog timing system should further help "iron" out jarring effects, perhaps to the point of obsoleting the one-way bearings?
If their torque and rpm reading are reasonabily representable rather than cherry picked, it appears some vital information is withheld as to why they don't have a runner. What might it be? Alternator minimum rpms, can't they put the torque through a gear multiplier? The losses are much greater than with gear reductions.
Thinking of a mechanical feedback loop from output shaft to interrrupter shaft, I could imagine a slight over-gearing through a non-toothed belt drive. The input shaft always "drives" ahead of the output shaft. Spring tension is also something I could imagine, but if the invention truly is UO, I'd expect a runaway situation or at least an equilibrium of high loss, high heat, high wear at some rpm.
Might the system accumulate heat that diminishes the returns of the over-torque characteristic?

As usual with these things, many questions and base don prior cases, limited expectations as to the arrival of any answers.
How many millions to get those answers? :)

panyuming

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 15, 2023, 06:30:22 PM
Can you please post the numbers that the simulation puts out ?

Regards, Stefan.

Thanks to Stefan for joining the discussion.

I don't know much about that software,
I just learned it during the 30-day trial period.
Probably get the following data.

I can see that the position of the parts in the diagram is very small,
and the force is much worse.
It seems that the magnetic field lines are not significantly different.
I did not learn how to move parts precisely in diagrams.

I changed the method of moving parts and got Figure 8.

The force is generated by magnetic field lines.
It should be that the magnetic field lines are similar, and the force is similar.
Precise calculations may be required to get quantified results.
I don't have such abilities.

panyuming

Hello everyone!
Re-simulate Corbin Motor, as shown in Figure 9.
The center magnet aligns the stator salient pole with the rotor long arm.
Magnetic field lines are dense and do not rotate easily.

As shown in Figure 10, the center magnet is rapidly rotated 90 degrees,
There are few magnetic field lines between the long arm of the rotor and the salient pole of the stator,
It's very easy to rotate.
https://overunity.com/19405/magnetic-flux-motor-just-patented-that-creates-its-own-electricity/msg574831/#msg574831


If the magnet in the center is fixed together with the long arm of the rotor, it cannot be rotated.

If the center magnet is replaced with a solenoid coil.
When the long arm of the rotor needs to leave the stator salient pole,
the coil is de-energized, which is very labor-saving.

When the rotor arm is sent to the solenoid coil before it wants to align with the next stator salient pole,
the rotor arm is magnetically accelerated to rotate to the next stator salient pole.
See Figures 11 and 12

So as Mr. Bistander said, it's Stepper Motor.

With such a structure, can the effect of the long arm still be shown?
Is there still a torque amplification effect of the long arm?

Then, I equated it to look like this.     Reply #142
https://overunity.com/19405/magnetic-flux-motor-just-patented-that-creates-its-own-electricity/msg574967/#msg574967
It's more like Stepper Motor.

However, the hope that Reply #142 gives me is that the coil structure,
unlike Stepper Motor, is not a separate coil on each stator pole.
Reply #142 uses a monolithic coil.


When the coil is energized, the rotor is not aligned with the stator salient pole,
which is equivalent to a large air gap in the iron core of the integral coil.
The coil inductance is relatively small.
Inductance at this point = L1.
The magnetic energy in the inductor is W1 = 1/2 L1 I2       
When the rotor is aligned with the stator salient pole,
the overall coil core has the smallest air gap and the largest inductance.
In this case, the inductance = L2, i.e. W2 = 1/2 L2 I2 
Because L2 > L1, W2>W1.     

In practice, when the rotor is aligned with the stator salient pole,
the power supply to the coil is stopped,
and the energy in the inductor is recovered using the back EMF.


In this way, is the recovered energy W2 greater than the energy W1 transmitted?
In fact, the rotor is rotating, and the current is changing.
The inductance is also changing.
I do not have the ability to calculate these cases with the integral formula.
W1, W2 are all rough estimates by me.
Probably there is a big difference here.
Causes W2>W1 to error.

Is this the same as what people call 'parametric oscillations'?


Also, if W2=W1, or W2 is slightly less than W1.
In the case of little loss of electrical energy,
It does get a strong mechanical rotational energy.
Will this be OU?  :)

Cloxxki

So Corbin presents three stacked phases of rotor only magnetically interfacing with a central prime axle.

Are the three to be condered fully isolated magnetically, or might the action on one interrruptor/rotor sub-interface also affect the flux lines on other sub-interfaces? Assuming they are less than perfectly isolated, the rpple effect can be either negative or positive, I suppose?

With unlimited funding, I'd build a copy of the setup, but with a carbonfiber prime axle, much larger axial spacing between the sub-interfaces, and look for differences in behavior at low and high speed. Spring loading individual interrupters from the central axle may further help or worsen performance at various speeds.

kolbacict

I have such a flashlight.
I disassembled it. And I did not see Stovbunenko's teeth in the design of the generator. Why ?
Obviously it could work better with this.