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Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

Started by am1ll3r, March 02, 2023, 07:32:40 PM

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ramset

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 16, 2023, 09:52:13 AM
So Corbin presents "

"With unlimited funding, I'd build a copy of the setup, "
Cloxxi
Hold that thought.. for educational purposes there just might be a path forward...


Our problem here has been too many pots on various fires ,
Priority one
Open source no excuses !!
And an organization which will support this ( as per Stefan's mission statement)
This open source community has TREMENDOUS resources!
Just all spread out ( less effective)
Let's try to fix that !


Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Will be engaging moderators and Stefan ( he is in process of organizing a moderator group here) to see our options ...probably start a topic soon !



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

bistander

Hello panyuming,
I like your work. However Mike's device uses a soft iron radial director as central (center) input member. It is not Permanent Magnet. The arms on the outer rotor are PM. Then outer stator is again soft iron. It is symmetrical. Analyzing one half, magnetic path has 2 gaps. These 2 gaps:
Have equal energy?
Have equal air gap distance?
Difficult to model, in my opinion.

Also question why you look at inductance when there is no coil?

Also, outer stator can take energy from system but not deliver energy to system. It can convert core and eddy to heat. It also stores energy in magnetic field by cogging.

Center radial director/PM bar on rotor are a clutch and "spring". It can transmit energy, store energy and dissipate energy (convert to heat). Its only source of energy is rotation/torque of shaft from prime mover.

Trying to visualize mechanical rotational system analysis diagram and state equations but been too many years and never had example problems include PMs. Interesting puzzle. Yet to see any possible gain mechanism.

Carry on, please.
bi

panyuming

Quote from: bistander on March 16, 2023, 02:46:42 PM
Hello panyuming,
I like your work. However Mike's device uses a soft iron radial director as central (center) input member. It is not Permanent Magnet. The arms on the outer rotor are PM. Then outer stator is again soft iron. It is symmetrical. Analyzing one half, magnetic path has 2 gaps. These 2 gaps:

Thank you Bistander!
I misread Corbin's design. The long arm is PM.
I don't understand.
I can only say that I think my pictures work better:)
It made everyone laugh.

SolarLab

Quote from: panyuming on March 16, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
Thank you Bistander!
I misread Corbin's design. The long arm is PM.
I don't understand.
I can only say that I think my pictures work better:)
It made everyone laugh.

Hi Panyuming,

First off - don't worry about it! We've all managed to get things mixed up a bit from time to time,
the only way to avoid that is to do "nothing - then you can't mix things up because you do nothing!

Using CAE is very difficult, but as time goes you get more seasoned and that pays off big time in
the end (I know this from experience) and you will end up being well ahead of herd in the end.

Nice work so far - and it's quite easy to change the materials (magnet and steel) around. A major
advantage when using a CAE approach.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your work and keep at it - over the ten+ years of following these boards
your much further ahead, even at this point, than 99.9% of the other participants, trust me!

And, don't worry, those few that have "been there and done that" are not laughing - only the idiots
and lamers will dare laugh...

SL


panyuming

Quote from: SolarLab on March 17, 2023, 12:54:29 AM
Hi Panyuming,

First off - don't worry about it! We've all managed to get things mixed up a bit from time to time,
the only way to avoid that is to do "nothing - then you can't mix things up because you do nothing!


Thank you!

Then I'll continue to be funny.

I then simulate the rotor long arm to PM,
Figure 13.
Even if the center part is rotated 90 degrees,
The magnetic field lines at the stator salient pole are still very dense,
It shows that such a structure is laborious to rotate.
Actually, I don't think it can be rotated.

Well, it can be rotated and the video has a display.