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Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

Started by am1ll3r, March 02, 2023, 07:32:40 PM

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tinman

Quote from: onepower on August 24, 2023, 07:33:30 PM
Tinman
Indeed, I looked at the link you posted here, https://www.pengky.cn/zz-direct-drive-turbine/transverse-flux-generator/transverse-flux-generator.html , and figured out the operating principal in around a minute. However I understand 99% of people wouldn't understand how it works because they rely on textbook theory rather than first principals.

I will explain how it works but I would also like to hear others theories before I explain the answer. Here's a clue, the picture below contains all the information we need to know. From this we can deduce how the transverse generator works.

AC

The image you posted should have you asking questions, as it proves my point--how will it work ?

Look at the images below of the generator, and then look at your image again, showing the direction of current flow in relation to the magnetic field. Do you not see something wrong in the images of the generator from that website ?

With, lets say, the north pole of the magnet between the C core, in which direction will the field be going around the windings, in order to determine the direction of current flow, via your diagram ?

The drawings from the website are incorrect, as it shows all the arrows for the magnetic fields pointing in one direction for each pole.
This cannot happen when you have only a north or south pole interacting with the core at one time. In order for there to be a field direction going around the core, you would need a north field at either the top or bottom of the core, and then the south field on the opposite side of the core.

QuoteHowever I understand 99% of people wouldn't understand how it works because they rely on textbook theory rather than first principals

I have added a second image, where i have corrected their mistake.
So using your image, and the corrected magnetic field orientation, and throwing out the text books, which way will the current be flowing through the windings ?

Brad


tinman

Quote from: phoneboy on August 24, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
Ok I'll bite.
Its works by creating an alternating A vector potential field which induces a current in the coil in the center of the cores.  It's pretty obvious from the drawing that there are half as many cores as rotor magnets so at times when the magnets are aligned on center with the cores they are either all north or all south.

Ok, so which way will the current flow through the coil ?, going by the right hand rule.
And if current starts to flow through the coil, the coil will produce a magnetic field.
Where will the south field be produced, and where will the north field be produced from the coil ?

phoneboy

Quote from: tinman on August 25, 2023, 12:41:36 PM
Ok, so which way will the current flow through the coil ?, going by the right hand rule.
And if current starts to flow through the coil, the coil will produce a magnetic field.
Where will the south field be produced, and where will the north field be produced from the coil ?
@Tinman
The current is AC, and its frequency is determined by the rotors rotational speed.  The drawing onepower posted is correct because he's referencing the induced current (left hand rule) not the field generated by us applying an external current through the coil (right hand rule).  E=-dA/dt.  Also, Lenz still applies even though there is no flux cutting.

partzman

I have to agree with Brad.  There is no changing flux around the inductor with the shown magnet assembly.  For a more complete explanation of transverse flux designs see the attached pdf below.

Pm

lumen

I'm thinking a magnetic field is always a loop and doesn't just appear in the G segments. It would travel as a loop into the G shaped sections and cut through the coil as it encounters back EMF the same as any generator.
(Had to do a quick picture hack to show poles on the magnet!)