TopRuslan

[Dog-One]

Ah Hum...

Getting back on topic here...

Does anyone know a method to determine the propagation delay
within a grenade coil?

First, does anyone know how to determine where the two ends of
a grenade coil are, when looking at this component as a transmission
line?

[AlienGrey]

You know the speed of light 300,000,000 meters a second
you know the length of the wire, you need to know the capacitanc.
you can find the formula on the internet.

Sil

[SolarLab]

Dog-One,

Might be something here that can help you out:
https://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/combi?lang=en

https://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/magnetic_wave_resonance?lang=en

On Line Calculations:
https://gorchilin.com/calculator/?lang=en

Simulation (Animation) of Standing Wave in Long Lines (you can change
the Harminics and Phases).
https://gorchilin.com/calculator/longline?lang=en

https://gorchilin.com/articles/efficiency2/?lang=en

Somewhere on Gorchilin's site is an animate standing wave capture cartoon but I
don't recall where it is. You'll have to cruise a bit...

Hey, don't disregard the HHO Generator  Much simpler to do! 

SL

[stivep]

Does anyone know a method to determine the propagation delay
within a grenade coil?
First, does anyone know how to determine where the two ends of
a grenade coil are, when looking at this component as a transmission
line?

velocity inhibiting circuit  is presented here in regards  to Power multiplication:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060190512A1/en




Propagation delay is small, in a human scale, often measured in nanoseconds or picoseconds.
- important mainly in digital logic where  p/n gate must stabilize before the next one in the sequence can be read.
In resonant  circuits made from any form of coil that factor is very much not important.

it is measured between the mid-points of the transition. Now if you define real propagation delay
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/328214/transition-time-rise-time-and-propagation-delay

These familiar  with  Russian language , and knowing  Ruslan, and a lot about Ruslan  - especially these replicating  Ruslan device
likely  no longer  support him. Ruslan is  absolutely disappointing knowledge based but according to a guy I know, who made  electronics for Ruslan:

Ruslan did it , and I didn't  knowing everything about  electronics used by him

Ruslan refused my offer to go to Riga Latvia and examine his device so  I can't  say it is fake or is not. He was however promising  me and bunch of Russians
a presentation with me physically present there,  knowing that  for him
I'm the opinion that  makes  money move   especially along  people who trust my expertise.
-and I  will stay on the side  after that , having no personal  gain nor interest in mind.  - unless convinced to participate after that,
_{- till now nobody  was convincing enough.}



This discussion here  as giving a lot of light on Tariel Kapanadze -the originator of the concept is absolutely
needed and educational.Grenade coil- is a form of CW, CCW left, right winding used by Tariel to  achieve  tremendously
lower  primary resonance frequency of a coil that is
electrically long - making it physically short.- means less wire used.
_{(normally  the shorter is the coil the higher is its resonant frequency) But we want less winds and lower F of  resonance.}

This mechanism is presented here :
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9d/2b/2a/fa977b9aae1691/US4751515.pdf
_{note: the wording in the patent may sound confusing  to some you- if so than ask me a question please}
Yes this is : the same Dr James Corum.

Importance of that is  because it explains why  Tariel Kpanadze coil and than SR coil, and than Akula coil and than Ruslan coil  is winded similar.
the main goal is  to use as low  as possible frequency  at best  17kHz. _{( and  not lose on  miles of  huge resistance of wire affecting Q)- despite its} X_{L and coil} X_C
the closer you are to Schumann  higher harmonics the  lower are the  losses in  energy conversion  from naturally available  waveguide.
That what you all possibly  don't think about is that  that energy in  Kapanadze  devices had to originate somewhere and be converted
to electrical energy in his device.
_{And that is why no one from you replicated it - apart from the few who  prefer to stay silent.}

the total resistance of the coil (related to wire size and number of turns) must equal the internal resistance of the power source

for DC to give battery  longer life: https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/how-many-turns-should-i-wind-on-a-coil.174331/
but the same  applies to impedance match in AC circuits where standard is 50 OHm
Wesley

[AlienGrey]

to work out freq to wave length is easy any duffer can do it, including me!

if light travels at 300 million miles a second and you wire length is 37.5 meters

then 3 x(10 to the eight) try a calculater = 8mhz  so whats all the secrecy and erasing

formula about ?

also if you devide 1 second by 10 the 8 you will get 125x10-9

hardly light speed but logic micro might have a problem 

Sil
PS have you thought about solar ?