UFOs as the Nazi legacy

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Nothing posted above is beyond developed human capacity to understand (altho it is beyond capacity of most at present), humanity has a lot of unlearning of false beliefs and limitations to do first before it can begin to assimilate Higher Knowledge. As for Schneider, altho he speaks the same things i speak about, he was caught lying and i think he lied about his supposed experiences.

He lied that Richard Sauder had degrees that he did not have and that he personally worked in those underground bases, Sauder harshly dismissed both of these claims in one of the interviews making it clear Schneider lied and made it clear he does not believe anything Schneider says, neither do i. I must say 100% fake.

I will however add that 1978-79 was most definitely a point in time of great conflict between ETs themselves and also between humans in black projects, i shared already mutliple times the wikileaks document dated 24.1.1979. about destruction of US Moon base, also in W56 case i shared countless times is written about great conflict between W56 and CTRs under and above Adriatic and that conflict resulted in Adriatic Tsunami very well documented and never forgotten for nothing similar ever happened before or after in recorded history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4lcSmyWuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip_fL5eotWQ

Those who really want to know what is going on in underground bases should pick TRUE sources, like Nadine Lalich whose book i shared so many times already. I reproduce from the book where she talks in detail about underground and undersea joint US military-ET bases.

Every word of this report is pure gold cause it is ALL true. Below is a drawing of type of craft she saw underground.

Underground Military Base

This experience took place during the middle of the night on October 3, 2008, while I was living in Laguna Woods, California. During this event, I believe I was taken from my bed, although I do not remember the actual abduction or transport. I do vaguely recall entering a large metal door into a mountain and then clearly recall going down a cylindrical, glass elevator with a tall military-type man. As we descended in the elevator, I could easily see several large open floors that looked as though they had been carved out of stone and earth. Along the sides of each layer were metal grid walkways mounted to the walls with staircases going downward. Here and there, I could see blue, double doors at the end of the corridors. One of the floors housed an unusual gigantic craft where many people in uniforms were working. They stood on the floor or on scaffolding that surrounded the craft. Although I viewed the area from quite a distance away, I had a strong impression that not all of the workers were human. They were all of a similar height and wearing the same tan overalls, but they moved differently. As we continued to descend, I also noted that the air was heavy and quite difficult to breathe. We had passed below the floor where the craft was when the elevator stopped. Without speaking, the man escorted me onto a metal grate walkway and through a long tunnel that had a set of blue doors at the end. We went through those doors and into another tunnel that led to more blue doors. Eventually, our walking ended at a second glass elevator. Going down one more floor, we ended up in an enormous chamber, much larger than all the previous levels. The dark, damp cave had small spotlights stationed along the dirt floor and rocky walls, and in the distance was a huge two or three-story building that looked like a mansion made of big blocks of concrete. I also realized by then that the man escorting me was a replica of several other men we had passed along the way. My next recollection was of being in the building and standing in a room with rows of large rectangular tables. I realized I was not wearing my nightgown, only underpants, so I tried to cover myself with my arms while I looked for my clothing. All the while I felt that someone was watching and following me. I pulled back a curtain and saw a lot of people looking very busy, but they didn't pay any attention to me. Behind the curtain were more long tables with clothing stacked in piles, some of it dirty. None of it looked like mine, so I grabbed a long shirt to cover up. My next recollection was of standing in the large foyer of the building. I was impressed again with the fact that it looked like a luxury mansion or hotel. A beautiful wooden staircase located rose impressively from the right side of the room and curved to the left onto the second floor. My escort was still with me and guided me into a room off to the left side of the foyer that looked like a typical doctor's office. A man came into the room dressed in a white lab coat who seemed to be a doctor. Strangely he kept fading in and out of my vision, sometimes not looking human, and I knew he wanted to talk to me, sedate me, and get information from me. I was sitting on the end of an examining table when he suddenly stepped away and went through a doorway into another room at the back of the office. Instantly I jumped off the table and left the room, ran through the foyer and out the big double doors at the front. Outside it was dark, and I ran around to the side of the building. The structure had regular windows, and I looked in to see if I could tell where the doctor had gone. The light was on in the room, but it was empty. I made my way along the side of the building, hugging the wall tightly until I reached the back. Peeking around the corner, I saw large sliding glass doors that opened onto a concrete patio with a section that extended out perpendicular to the building another ten or twelve feet. That portion looked somewhat like a runway for clothing models. I could see several figures standing on the patio and through the open doors, others who were inside the large room. Some of them were extraordinarily tall, wearing tunics and robes that draped to their feet. They did not appear to be humans. Overall, the scene looked like a social event with dining and relaxing. A few moments later, I heard voices and saw a half dozen men making their way from the front of the building toward me. In the distance, I also saw a small area cordoned off with plastic fencing, and I headed that way to hide. Inside the enclosure, the ground was muddy with shallow pools of water scattered about, and tiny plants and moss were sprouting from the marshy ground. They quickly found me, and several of the identical-looking men brought me back into the building to a room adjacent to the foyer. I remember saying to them, "Whoa, I don't believe it. That is so amazing. You look exactly alike." They did not respond, and I heard someone in the room tell them to keep me quiet or knock me out. They set me down in a straight-back chair in the center of the room with the doorway to my back, and I was no longer able to move my body. In front of me were two black leather lounging chairs with full arms. Although I could not turn my head, I could see from my peripheral vision that there were several large dark screens off to my left and right that looked like flat-screen televisions. I heard people talking behind me, but I could not see them. They were discussing the prospect of taking me away from the facility. It occurred to me that they were engaged in something significant, and I pleaded with them to let me stay. I found my attitude toward the situation quite strange because, previously, I had always wanted any experience to stop. Two females then walked over and stood in front of me. They were wearing white robes that fell to the floor and a covering on their heads that limited my view of their faces. Nonetheless, it was evident that they were not human. The people standing behind me had decided to remove me from the area. I could see from the corner of my eye the original person or ET who had been in the examining room, and he was speaking out loud, saying he had made up his mind not to give me another chance. Again, I pleaded with them, "Please, I will cooperate. I want to know what's going on here. I want to be a part of this." I still felt reasonably clearheaded when two of the male guards sat down in the leather chairs opposite me. They put on huge headphones that nearly covered the entire sides of their heads. I think they were intended to block whatever sound waves they were going to expose me to. Suddenly, I could feel my consciousness fading out, and the room began to dim and look far away. I remember feeling strong determination and telling myself to remember everything! Don't forget anything! This is very important! This experience was one of the more lucid I have had. From the moment we entered the underground facility until much later, when I was rendered unconscious in the underground building – it felt like a real experience. I was curious about the audio technology they used, so I did some research on the psychoacoustic effect on humans by infrasonic, sonic, and ultrasonic frequencies. The following excerpts from a 1998 Marine Corps newsletter posted on the website for the American Federation of Scientists, read: Non-lethal weapons, such as acoustic and directed energy weapons, can provide Marines with an alternative way to deal with noncombatants...and still accomplish set objectives and missions. Non-lethal weapons are defined by the Department of Defense policy as discriminate weapons that are explicitly designed and employed to incapacitate. ... Another item being looked at is a directed energy weapon that uses lowfrequency soundwaves that can knock a person out but causes no permanent damage. In further researching the current use of sound waves for brain stimulation, I found the following excerpts from an article written by Antoine Jérusalem, Professor, Department of Engineering Science, at the University of Oxford: At the moment, non-invasive neuromodulation – changing brain activity without the use of surgery – looks poised to usher in a new era of healthcare. ... But what happens if this technique for altering our brain waves escapes regulation and falls into the wrong hands? Imagine a dictatorial regime with access to the tricks and tools to change the way its citizens think or behave.... How dystopian could it get? I can see the day coming where a scientist will be able to control what a person sees in their mind's eye, by sending the right waves to the right place in their brain.... This technology is not without its risks of misuse. It could be a revolutionary healthcare technology for the sick, or a perfect controlling tool with which the ruthless control the weak. This time though, the control would be literal. ... I am also convinced that human nature is such that if something can be done, it will be done. The question is by whom.

Underwater Military Base

This experience occurred on April 14, 2010, while I was living in Laguna Woods, California. I awoke in the middle of the night with the feeling that someone was in my bedroom. My dog, Annie, was standing on the floor at the foot of the bed and acting strangely. I tried to raise my head but realized that I was paralyzed and unable to sit up. I remember being taken from my home with a blanket wrapped around me and then placed into a helicopter or similar craft. Shortly after that, I believe I was transferred to a second ship that soon was flying north along what I assumed was the Pacific coastline. Suddenly, there was a hard jolt, and in the row of small round windows in front of me, I could actually see water splash against the windows. I was astounded by the feeling that we seemed to be traveling under the ocean. The only other conscious memory I had of this experience was of being in a hazmat unit and being tested while military people watched. On October 23, 2013, Barbara Lamb conducted a hypnotic regression back to the date of this experience on April 14, 2010. BL: I'm going to count down from number ten down to number one. And when I get down to number one, you're going to be there now, beginning in your room, in your bed on that particular night, April 14th, 2010. On April 14th, 2010. You are at your home, and you are sleeping on your bed. Eventually, you will be finding yourself awakened. Let's go to your first awareness of this on April 14th, 2010, while you are sleeping in your bed. When you're aware of something, just mention it out loud with your words.
NL: Annie, my dog, was on the floor, standing up at the end of the bed.
BL: Okay, is that unusual for Annie to be standing up like that?
NL: She's looking at something. Acting strangely, but not barking.
BL: Okay, she's just looking. Which direction does she seem to be looking?
NL: Towards the bottom of the bed. The right side, by the window, and there's a
dark figure there.
BL: Okay, there is a dark figure?
NL: A dark figure you can't see. She's just looking at him.
BL: Okay. So she seems to be looking at the shadow.
NL: And there's a light behind it from the window.
BL: Okay. And you see it too? Okay. All right. The light behind it. Now, does it
seem like that's coming through the window from outside? Or is it emanating
from inside, somehow?
NL: The light's from a sidewalk light, coming through the curtain. There's a big
black figure standing in front of the bed. That's what she's looking at, but
she's afraid. She's not even barking. It looks like a man.
BL: Okay.
NL: He has a cap on.
BL: I know Annie's not barking, but do you see anything?
NL: There's someone in the doorway of the bedroom. Someone's in my house. It
seems like people. There's another man.
BL: All right. Is he just standing there without moving?
NL: The second man is standing in the doorway, waiting for something.
Instructions. I can't move. I'm cold. I'm trying to move. I can't move for
some reason.
BL: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
NL: I can't sit up or anything.
BL: Are they aware that you can see them?
NL: It's all secret. No one is talking. They're waiting for the next thing. It feels
like a helicopter. It's like a helicopter outside.
BL: Do you hear it?
NL: I'm in my pajamas. I'm in a nightgown. And I'm outside.
BL: Oh, you're outside now.
NL: And someone's taking me somewhere.
BL: Now, where is this helicopter in relationship to where your house is?
NL: It's by my garage somewhere. It's quiet. I don't hear anything. There's no
sound.
BL: Wow.
NL: There's no sound from it, nothing.
BL: Take a really good look. I realize it's night time, but take a good look at that
helicopter and describe what you see.
NL: From a distance, it looks like a helicopter, but when I get closer, it's round,
and it looks kind of silver. It fades in and out and then almost looks like a
helicopter. Then I get a feeling of a rounded bottom or something. It's
different. I don't know what it is, exactly. It's confusing.
BL: Do you actually see the big helicopter blades?
NL: No. That wouldn't make any sense at all. It can't be blades. It's not big
enough there. No blade.
BL: So you, if you look at the top of this object, whatever it is, where the
propellers would be, you don't see them?
NL: It's flat, and nothing's moving, really, up on top. Maybe it's not a helicopter,
but it seemed like there was something on the ground that was a helicopter.
Now it looks like there's something overhead, hovering over the parking lot
area, maybe 25 feet up. Not far. It's just sitting there.
BL: Not moving or anything?
NL: It is not moving, no. Someone's pushing me up towards it. I just had this
feeling I was being walked out and up into this helicopter. Now it feels like
there's this thing overhead now, not that far up. Its more like an oblong or a
cigar- shaped ship maybe. Something like that, but it's up off the ground, like
twenty feet, or something.
BL: Okay.
NL: I think it's by the garage, but a little farther out. It seems quiet. Everything's
quiet. I can't tell, but I might be covered with something. I don't know what,
but something is wrapped around me. I don't even remember going out the
door. All I know is that I'm just suddenly on the side of the house here.
BL: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
NL: I'm on the side of the house going towards this helicopter or something up
there. I'm going up there. Yes, it feels like something dark is wrapped around
me that is so I can't see or make any noise.
BL: You said that something is wrapped around you. Did you mean it's wrapped
around your head, too?
NL: My body.
BL: Just your body?
NL: My body. It's different, whatever this is.
BL: What are those men doing at this time? Can you tell me where they are?
NL: I know there's one to the right of me, and maybe more on the left. They've
got these caps on their heads and matching pants and shirts. It looks like dark
green or gray. A real dark uniform with a hat and it's got a brim. They're
very matter of fact, the way he talks to me.
BL: Okay. At this point, is it accurate to say that you can't move?
NL: No, because my feet are moving, and I can't resist now. I'm moving along
with them because they hustle me along, sort of. At least along the sidewalk,
with one of them on each side.
BL: Do you feel the ground under your feet as you're moving?
NL: No. I don't physically feel much of anything.
BL: Okay. What about the temperature outside?
NL: I think it's cold. I think that's why I've got a blanket on. I'm going
somewhere, somewhere by the water and the ocean. I'm on the ship now.
BL: The craft?
NL: On a ship. In a craft. It's round. I'm going somewhere. I don't know why
there's water. I feel like there's water, and we're by the beach, going north by
the ocean.
BL: So you have a sense that you're heading north?
NL: It is heading north. Yeah. It doesn't look like a helicopter now. There's this
thing in the middle of the room that you can put your hands on or something.
It's round. There are two people ahead in front and rows of chairs. The round
thing in the center is like a core in the middle of the ship, and something
round goes up from it.
BL: Is it like a column?
NL: Like a column, but the bottom part comes out of the room more like a ledge
around it. The pillar goes up and, I don't know why, but I keep thinking
people put their hands on it for some reason.
BL: Do you see somebody with their hands on it right now?
NL: Two tall people, but these aren't people. They're not really people. They look
white, very tall, and lanky. There are two of them doing something to this
tall column. I think I'm sitting in something on one side of the column, and
somebody is behind me watching me. I feel sedated and unable to do much.
I'm physically drugged, sort of. I'm going somewhere with water. I don't
know why this has to do with the ocean. Wow!
BL: Are you able to see out of this vehicle, or whatever you want to call it? Can
you see out and see if there's water out there?
NL: On the edge, in the upper half, there are some panes of some kind that you
can see out of, and I can look out.
BL: All right.
NL: I have a feeling we're going into the water. I feel like we're going into the
water.
BL: Now when you say that you are going into the water, how do you know that?
NL: We're splashing into the water.
BL: Does that mean this whole thing that you're sitting inside?
NL: The whole thing. The entire ship's going in. It's going into the water!
BL: All right.
NL: It's like a jolt's hitting it.
BL: Does the whole object that you're inside of feel like it's moving?
NL: You can feel it hitting the water and going into the water. Yeah, then it's, I
don't know. It's a different feeling afterward. It's like a vibration I can feel.
BL: Are you seated on something?
NL: Yes. It's curved. And kind of [inaudible] by a curve.
BL: Okay. Are you reasonably comfortable sitting there? Is this thing moving in
the water?
NL: Anxious. Anxious.
BL: Are you feeling anxious?
NL: I've never done this before. I've never done anything like this before.
BL: Oh, yes. Okay. Okay, now, as all this is going on, do you have any awareness
of those people who are there?
NL: There are these two tall people on the pole, and two people who are not
people are in the front, in two curvy chairs. The windows up front are on top,
so when we hit the water, it got dark in those windows.
BL: Okay.
NL: Someone's to my left is talking. They're talking in vocal words.
BL: Do you hear the words with your ears?
NL: With words. Audible. Using voices. Someone is also standing here, to my
right, right behind my chair, with a uniform on.
BL: Okay, now, with the one who's talking with an actual voice, can you
understand what's being said?
NL: I can't really hear words, but they're talking to someone else that's not in
uniform, that's not fully human. There's three talking, talking about
somebody else coming to join them.
BL: Okay.
NL: Someone else is coming. They're preparing for somebody to come. We're
going there, and someone else is coming.
BL: All right. Take a good look now.
NL: The one that doesn't look entirely human, I don't know what he is, but sort of
like a man.
BL: Is he standing upright, two-legged, like a man?
NL: Yes, very tall. Over six feet and wearing some other kind of material.
Something shiny and silky or something.
BL: Are you talking about his clothing?
NL: Mm-hmm (affirmative). He looks dignified.
BL: And what about his face?
NL: Chiseled, kind of.
BL: Chiseled how?
NL: Not like the two on the column. I don't know what this is. I've never seen one
of them before. They're kind of Oriental looking, but I don't know what they
are.
BL: Is there any hair on this one?
NL: There is some hair on the head, I think.
I don't know what. It's facing sideways from me.
BL: Is it the profile?
NL: It's the side of the face. And my head's turned the wrong way. I can't move,
but it looks like he understands what the others are saying.
BL: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
NL: I don't think he's saying anything, though.
BL: What is it that gives you that impression he's not fully human?
NL: I don't know. Maybe it's his energy or something. I don't know what it is. Or
his skin color. It's white. I can only get it out of the corner of my eyes. My
head can't turn around and face him. I get Oriental and some kind of hair on
his head with high, high cheekbones from the side.
BL: How about his eyes. What do they look like?
NL: They're big, but I can't see them well because it's only the side of his face. So
I can only see just this corner of it., but it looks like his eyes would be big.
And his face is kind of flat in the front — kind of flat.
BL: Is there a nose sticking out?
NL: No. No.
BL: Is there any nose at all?
NL: Not much. A bump, maybe? There might be a higher collar in the back on the
back of the shirt that he's wearing. They're still in conversation getting ready
for somebody coming. Okay. There's a hangar on the bottom, under the
water. Yes, there's some kind of a hangar underwater that you go into.
BL: Okay. How are you able to see that?
NL: We're there now, somehow.
BL: Are you there now?
NL: I don't know if I went to sleep for a while. I don't know. It just seems like
we're here now in this thing.
BL: Okay.
NL: There's a cement floor with water on the floor. This thing we're in has got
legs on it. It's got legs on it, and that's how it stands on the floor when it goes
down. Water's dripping from things in there where we're standing. Now
they're taking me somewhere. I see the bubble, the big bubble. And a built-in
office or a building at the other end that's enclosed, but there are doors you
can go through. This giant, giant room that everything is in looks like metal,
a big metal room that's round on the top. It's all like metal with a flat bottom.
I don't know how they got this thing in there, but they did. And there's
another bubble inside the main one that's big and clear.
BL: So this other bubble is one that you are going in yourself?
NL: I'm not going in now. I'm walking somewhere else.
BL: Now, are these men right there with you as you're walking?
NL: One man is taking me somewhere. There's a way to get into that second
bubble. In the bubble, you can see an opening from outside.
BL: Now, did you have to get out of your own craft, in order to be walking
toward that bubble?
NL: I would. Yes. I think it opens on the bottom, and you come out of the bottom
somehow. It's like there are big pillar lights that come out of this craft, and
then it opens, and you can come out.
BL: Okay.
NL: It's different. This is different from any experience I've ever had. This doesn't
make any sense. Totally different. I feel like I've been put into some kind of
smock or dress outfit like an examining gown. It's white, or pale blue and it
goes all the way down to the middle of my legs. There is someone else there.
They're doing this to somebody else, too. We both have these big smocks on.
BL: Do you think that person has also been brought there?
NL: Yes. It's a man. And they're bringing us both into this room with a table in it.
I don't know why, but I think they want me to talk to a psychiatrist. It's
weird.
BL: Now let's just....
NL: And it's like being on display.
BL: Are they taking you into this other bubble?
NL: I've already been there. There's a room that leads from the bubble where you
get changed. Then there's a nurse in there, and you put this thing on.
BL: Uh-huh. A changing room sort of?
NL: Yeah. She's like a nurse. I think she takes your temperature, but I don't know
what else she does, exactly. I don't feel afraid, just curious. I think the nurse
is just a woman, or she looks like a woman.
BL: Like a real human woman?
NL: I think so.
BL: What about this other man? Does he seem to be human?
NL: Yes, and he acts as if he knows me. I think this has happened to him before.
He looks like he's 40 or 50. He's older and his hair is dark. It's combed to the
side, and greasy. He's got a rebellious attitude. When he spoke, he told me,
"Don't say anything. Don't say anything to them." It's like he knows how to
do this thing and we shouldn't talk. There are things on a table. We're
supposed to be in a show or something and going to be asked questions.
We're going to do tests and show things and push buttons. Someone is
observing us and following us from outside and going to watch us. They're
testing us for something.
BL: You and the man?
NL: Yes.
BL: Is he being tested, also?
NL: Yes.
BL: Is he saying anything?
NL: They want to know what we know. There's another man that speaks slowly to
you with words. We're speaking words in here. It's not telepathy. And he's
slow and patient, the way he talks to ask you questions. "What do you see?
What do you think? What do you know?" Like that. He writes notes on some
kind of electronic device in his hand like a tablet. There's somebody outside
that he can talk to and ask questions through the glass.
BL: How does the air seem to you in there? How's your breathing going?
NL: The air is cool, damp, and heavy. I don't know who this other third person is
in the room with us. I thought it was a psychiatrist and a man. I don't know
who that is, but it may not be a man.
BL: But he seems to be watching and testing you?
NL: Watching and testing, yes. They want to know stuff, and we're going to tell
them, but they don't want it by our voice. They want it by things we push.
We answer differently. Mechanically, there are some things in front of us,
and we push a button. I think that this guy maybe is not a psychiatrist. I am
talking out loud to this other man in here with me, but with the doctor guy, it
may be telepathy after all. And we listen to his telepathy, and then we push
the buttons - something like that. We push things.
BL: Are they giving you instructions?
NL: Yes. Then we answer by what we push while other people watch from
outside.
BL: Have you seen this before? Do you know what you are supposed to push?
NL: I'm just answering with lots of yes and nos. Some things are colored like
buttons that are red and black. There may also be some monitors stuck on
me, sensors, or something stuck on me.
BL: Okay.
NL: He's at one end of the table, and I'm here with a console on top of this table.
It has these wedges that we push, and that's how we give our answers, our
responses to whatever they ask us. But I think it's telepathy he's using when
he asks us things.
BL: Rather than speaking out loud?
NL: Right. They want to know more stuff like, "What did you see? Where did
you go? How many times? When did it happen?" Those kinds of things.
Questions like that.
BL: Okay. Does it seem like you know the answers right away?
NL: Yes. Yes. Where we've been and who we've seen. What were they doing?
What did their ship look like? Who else was there? How long were you
there? What things did you see? Equipment? How did you feel? How do
they make you calm?
BL: Did it seem like they're asking about regular events in your everyday life?
NL: No, no, no. No, they want to know what contacts, what ET contacts you've
had, who you've seen. How many times. What did they look like? What did
they wear? What did they want? How did they treat you? How many times?
Are they in your house? Where did you go? How many kinds at one time?
BL: Specifically about extraterrestrial contact?
NL: Yes. How does it move? How does the ship move? What do they ask me?
What do they want from me? What do they do to me?
BL: So these things that you're pushing, these button types of things. Do they
have letters on them or words on them? Or symbols of any kind?
NL: It might be more like a console like a computer. You just push a button when
you see things that you relate to. Instead of saying, "Yes," you push one that
looks like what you've seen. Like that. You push the things you recognize,
what you've seen. All your answers are more pushing with your finger.
BL: So there are pictures or scenes?
NL: Yeah, like pictures, and you're just touching it.
BL: Okay. Are these pictures like what we'd see on a computer screen or
television screen?
NL: It's a flat thing, like a computer screen, a panel that's set in front of you. They
keep changing it, and different pictures come up. When you answer those,
another set of buttons shows up. You push the ones that are, yes, you've seen,
and that you identify.
BL: Okay. Now, what is your reaction to all this? Any particular feeling about
having all these questions asked of you?
NL: It makes sense to me. I understand what they're doing, why they're doing
this. It really makes sense to me that they would want to know this.
BL: Oh, okay.
NL: There's something in front of me that looks like red dust. It's something
about inhaling it. You inhale it sometimes, and that's giving me a state of
mind, or calmness. I don't know what that is, exactly.
BL: Are you supposed to do everything that they [inaudible]?
NL: I think I feel restrained, but lucid at the same time. I don't feel combative. I
don't feel like I care about cooperating or not. It's all okay with me. It's all
okay with me, and it just makes sense. I know that there's somebody
watching me out there. They're watching. I feel there's human military
involved here, and this is important.
BL: Okay. So although it sounds like a couple of these, shall we say, people, there
haven't seemed fully human, some of the other ones do seem entirely human.
Is that correct?
NL: Yes. Some seem human and some only part, like the tall, white ones that
were on the column. Now, there's a mixture here of a couple of different
kinds.
BL: We're going to zoom ahead now and see if there's anything else in this
experience that would be important for you to know.
NL: Somebody tapped me on the shoulder. He's touching me on the shoulder and
telling me I did a good job, that person talking. They're going to see me
again because I did a good job. He says this when I'm leaving the bubble and
standing outside. This soldier looked like a man in a uniform wearing khaki.
He seemed nice. He has a silver mustache. He's just a man.
BL: So, he's polite and decent?
NL: Oh, the other man that was in the bubble is going somewhere else. He doesn't
come with me. He's going somewhere else. Maybe there is another ship that
he's getting in.
BL: Okay, this man, when you are outside of the bubble has been commending
you for having done very well.
NL: You know, this man I've seen before.
BL: The one with the silver mustache?
NL: This man I saw underground in one of my experiences. This guy gave me a
chance. Wow. He gave me a chance in this underground when I saw the ship
being made with all these scaffolds around it. They gave me a chance to
participate because I kept swearing that I was ready, but I wasn't ready. I
wasn't ready at all. Wow! And I was just swept out of that experience
because I was too frightened.
BL: And when you said ...?
NL: This man seems like the same man that I saw back then. He was in that room
back then. That's at least a year ago.
BL: One year or so before this one?
NL: I ran away from them.
BL: You kept saying that you weren't ready for that.
NL: I was ready. I thought I was ready to participate, consciously, without having
to be altered, in whatever was going on. And so I had an experience where I
was conscious in the beginning, alert and awake. I saw everything, but I
couldn't handle it, so I ran, and I freaked out so that I was subdued and
returned. I was disappointed. I was so disappointed that I couldn't keep
myself calm.
BL: I think that's understandable. But this time you are staying calm.
NL: Yes.
BL: But in this one, no harm's being done to you, apparently. Are they not
physically examining you?
NL: I think they took some blood. I think they may have taken some blood before
I came in and took my temperature. That's all.
BL: Okay. So nothing was particularly frightening. Is that right?
NL: Yes.
BL: Okay. Just notice now how it is that you get returned to your own home and
your bed.
NL: I walked into my room. Somebody gave me something. A drug. Some kind
of drug, or injection in the house, and walked me to my room and my bed.
BL: Okay. Was there any difficulty getting into your house or anything?
NL: We just walked in. I don't know where the dogs are. There must be a way to
calm dogs down.
BL: Okay, so you're back in bed.
NL: Mm-hmm (affirmative). I'm tired. I think I got back around 3:30, 3:40. And I
have to work in a couple of hours.
BL: Right. So you get up with the alarm, as usual.
NL: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
BL: Okay. Well, you've done very, well remembering the details of this
experience, and you'll be able to continue to remember them. Right now, we
need to come back to this time, and this place, and this situation, bringing
back everything that you've just experienced, that you've just learned and
any thoughts and any feelings that you have about that experience you will
remember all those details. You've done well.
(End of Excerpt)

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And another interesting lead, from video about Richard Sauder's book Underground and Underwater Bases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fyFGpIt5Ho

@BUBearL comments below

"Met a lady on an airliner.  Coming from Norfolk.  Years ago now.  Can't remember details, but I think her husband was a scientist or in research tied to military. Anyway, she ended up mentioning underwater research facilities being in the Bahamas and/or off Florida."

That is exactly what is said in the Law Of One session i quoted many times already which also confirms undersea base Nadine Lalich speaks about in chapter reproduced above.

Law of One 26.1.1980.

8.3 Questioner: Are these craft that are of our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?

Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples' societal divisions or structures. The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.

REPORT THAT UR DESTROYED SECRET US BASE ON MOON
Date:1979 January 24, 00:00 (Wednesday)
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P790011-1247_e.html

Speaking of Bahamas reminds me of this report

Puerto Rico secret space program base

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2361248497345626&set=a.193173027486528&_rdc=1&_rdr

During our presentation as a speaker in the July 1993 MUFON Symposium we included in our talk details about the existence of an alleged site similar to the S-4 facility that allegedly exists in the Area 51 section of Nellis Air Force base, in Nevada, USA. One of them was based on an experience a young couple of puertorricans had in the area of Pico del Este (the Eastern Peak), in El Yunque Rain Forest.

One night in late February 1991, young Freddie González and his wife, Nilda Cuevas, went to El Yunque rainforest. With them were Nilda's younger brother, who was just a child, and their baby.

They had arrived from New York city, where they lived, an wanted to visit the forest, so they took Freddie's mother's car and headed up into the forest along road 191. Ecstatic with the beauty of the area and its lush vegetation, they reached a point where there was a large opening between the foliage in the area.

The sun was already low in the horizon when Freddie got out of the vehicle to check it and discovered that the opening was a camouflaged gate covered by thick vegetation.

They decided to continue on through the opening, and further along the way were surprised to find themselves driving on a modern, well-paved road. It was already around 7:30 PM.

"From a certain point onward, there were blue light bulbs at the road's edge, on each side," González told us in an interview. "It was like on an airport's runway at night."

He continued his explanation. "At that point we felt a weird sensation. Nilda said that we should go back, but I kept going. The road continued going up between the mountains.

"We kept on going for 2 or more miles, and reached the end of the road. There was a big metallic gate there, and a building behind it some distance away, in the middle of a mountain. Just then, two men wearing strange uniforms showed up and stopped us. They ask who we were and what we were doing there.

"They both stood some six feet tall, dressed in tight fitting, one-piece black suits of a leather-like material, similar to a diver's wet suit. They also wore a wide, black belt. Both of them wore black gloves and black boots with what looked like metallic gold buttons on their sides. These went all the way up to their knees.

"They both also wore big, oval helmets with black visors. You could not see their faces, and I can't explain how they were able to see us as it was getting dark (see drawing). Everything they wore was completely black, except for those golden buttons."

"They ordered us to stop," González added. "Then they told us to get out of the car. Thier voices sounded electronic, muffled. But they both spoke in Spanish language. Maybe their voices sounded like that because of their helmets.

"I got out of the car, but told my wife to remain inside. They asked who we were, and requested our driving licenses and Ids. We gave this to them. They looked at them and gave them back to us.

"They then examined the car's license plate, and one of them examined the bottom part of the car with a long, metallic object like a thin tube that had a mirror on its end. He said that 'everything was O.K'. Why he did that, I truly don't know.

"Then they looked at my wife, our baby, and my brother-in-law, and asked again why we were there. I explained that we wanted to have a look at the rainforest and got lost. The two men talked between themselves in a language that sounded strange, guttural-like, and garbled. I would compare it with the Russian language... or maybe German language.

"One of them left the site and at that moment I saw a car approaching. It was a dark blue pick-up truck, and inside of it were two men dressed in one-piece blue overalls like the ones mechanics use. They were Puerto Ricans, because of their accent. They spoke Spanish, and also asked us who we were and how we had gotten there. They would not talk to the tall man dressed in black, who remained there.

"I noticed that the pick-up's door had a U.S. Navy sign on it and realized, "The Navy? Of course, Navy Roosevelt Roads Station in Ceiba! It is close to the forest!"
The men in the truck looked at my wife and the kids and whispered something to the man dressed in black..."

At that moment, there was a sudden flash of light which came from the direction where the pickup truck had come from. Freddie couldn't help but see it, and he looked in that direction, but had trouble believing what he saw.

"That light," he said, "came from inside a rectangular hollowed out area which seemed to be excavated into the side of the mountain covered by vegetation.

"That rectangular area was actually an opening with big crystal doors, and inside of it was an object similar to a flying saucer! It had a circular shape with windows all around its center (see drawing by the witness).

"I could see it clearly due to the brilliance of the light inside. Some men wearing white lab coats were doing something with the saucer, like electrical soldering, and that was what produced the flashes that called my attention.

"The craft seemed to be about some 30 feet in diameter. It was metallic and silvery. It rested on some supports.

"All of a sudden I realized that I was seeing something that, perhaps, I should not be witnessing and became scared. I looked away. The men apparently were not aware that I had seen the saucer."

One of the men in the pick-up truck told the young couple that they should not be there at that time of night "...because people get lost in the dark and disappear easily in the forest without ever being seen again."

He ordered them to follow them, that they would drive them out of the area. They also instructed them that they could not talk to anyone about what they saw and what happened there."

Afraid, they obeyed, and were escorted out of the area. Once they arrived at Route 191, they began their descent from the mountaintop. The Navy pick-up truck followed them for awhile, and then suddenly disappeared from sight.

Freddie and his wife were very nervous, fearing that because of what they saw in El Yunque the U.S. Government might come after them.

In fact, two days later, while they visited the wife's parents in the town of Canóvanas, everyone present at the place noticed a dark car with four individuals inside of it parked in front of the house. The individuals inside wore fine civilian suits, neckties and dark glasses. They seemed to be watching them. Parked next to the dark car was a military camouflaged truck.

"Someone" was letting them know that they were being watched, and it was obvious to Freddie González and his wife that the reason for that was what they had seen in El Yunque.

According to the couple, Some of the individuals entered the house and talked with them, insisting they should go back with them to El Yunque to discuss something. The couple refused to go, terrified that they might "disappear" in the forest.

Once the men realized that the couple would not go with them, they departed. After this incident, González and his wife left Puerto Rico and moved to the United States, where they still reside.

González believes that the reason they were not taken by the men was due to the children being present at the time. He wonders what would have happened if they were alone that night.

We asked him why they decided to tell us their story, and he replied, "Look, I am conscious of the importance of what we saw up there, as it has many implications. But people should know about it. We deserve to know what is happening. It is our right to know."

We agreed on this with the witness. But, who were the mysterious individuals dressed with the tightfitting black suits and helmets?

Why would they be wearing this type of suit in such a warm and humid environment like the one in El Yunque rainforest?

Were they human beings or of extraterrestrial origin?

Why did they speak at times in a strange, guttural garbled language the witnesses could not identify?

What can be said for sure is that the individuals who removed the couple from the site were driving a pick-up truck labeled as belonging to the U.S. Navy, which again, implies a connection between that US military agency and the UFO situation.

This was one of the many incidents we reported in the July 1993 MUFON Symposium in Virginia.

In recent years there has been a considerable increase in U.S. military presence in the rainforest, and many visitors have been taken out from it at gun point, even when they were not in restricted areas. This was often done in an aggressive manner and without explanation.

Below illustration made by Mr. Freddie González of the object he saw inside the camouflaged facilty and depiction of the guard.

The "abandoned" US Navy base at the top of Pico del Este, the location of the meeting from the last post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_del_Este_(Sierra_de_Luquillo)#/media/File:Radar_towers_-_panoramio_(1).jpg

[NickZ]

   Well, you may be right, but as I have not heard of the guy who you believe to be telling the truth about Phil Schneider. I would think that the government would rather silence him, as soon as possible. And have made up all that you've just mentioned, instead. His wife continued with the videos after he was killed, that have now all been removed from youtube now, several of his videos and chats  have been deleted, and his involment in Dulce, as well . There was  some kind of alien war at that base also, but I forget all the details now.   Of course you can believe what you want, but personally to me Phil's story is more than just 100 percent fake. Nor is the secret Dulce 7 level underground base just another false story as well? How do all the people that work there, get there. This base is on top of a steep rocky mountain, unlike Groom Lake, Area 51, S4, and possibly hundreds of other secret underground installations. In any case, I take everything with a grain of salt. Even this...   
   But, you know it's funny, I have been posting over 5000 posts on this forum alone, over the last bunch of years here. Yet I never heard you mention any of those things that you've mentioned lately, before. What caught my attention, was the Oasphe info, which I do believe to a Tee. But, I was not comfortable sharing. As it brings up negative discussions, instead. Like you said, we may not be ready, yet.     
   NickZ

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Richard Sauder is quite well known in the deep underground/undersea military bases niche, Sauder is the very opposite of government agent. If you listen to any of his interviews that should be clear to you. ALL he said is that Schneider LIED about Sauder's supposed degree (i don't remember exactly which one) and that Schneider LIED Sauder worked in those military underground bases. If he lied about those things, it's not much of a stretch of imagination to see he probably lied about other things too.

I am looking at his lecture again, for i have seen all from him years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctb38JLJ2hg

His general demeanour tells me he is lying, that he like Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron and many others was passionate about the UFO subject so he invented a story to bring awareness to the subject. He is also promoting Al Bielek, now, while Philadelphia Experiment probably happened, Al Bielek certainly did not work on it and his story is 100% made up. He is also speaking about supposed 1954. US government-greys treaty, there is really no good source for this, he is basically regurgitating classic UFO lore, mixing it with his supposed "experience". Any video that leads people to think seriously about deep underground military-ET bases is removed from youtube or sandboxed. Nothing strange there.

Of course you can believe what you want too. As for Dulce, i am not dismissing it, but Thomas E. Castello is a strange character almost nothing is known about him, not even if he really existed. Here is an in-depth analysis of the Castello story

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread136893/pg1

And here is the key post

The first mention of Thomas E. Castello originated from Tal Levesque (a.k.a., TAL or Jason Bishop).
Thomas E. Castello was also mentioned around the same time by someone who called herself Ann west.
See the section on Thomas E. Castello below.
Here is a post relating to how the whole rumor of an alleged Dulce base started:

PAUL BENNEWITZ .......owner of Thunder Scientific Corporation (contractor to Kirtland AFB), located right next to the entrance of Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, NM, presently operated by his sons...............from around 1979 Paul Bennewitz began to witness some strange lights hovering over Manzano underground nuclear storage area, not too far from his residence in the Four Hills area of Albuquerque.

Some researchers (such as Greg Bishop) theorize that he was looking at some tests of Project Starfire (laser-based optical tracking system being developed at that time by Sandia Laboratories next to Manzano) or possibly some tests of prototypes of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) developed by Sandia Laboratories at that time.......Paul Bennewitz later became convinced that those objects were somehow related to an underground base in northern New Mexico near Dulce.....articles on Bennewitz soon began to appear in newspapers such as the Albuquerque Journal and Albuquerque Tribune.

Paul Bennewitz began to suffer from paranoia and was later institutionalized......he passed away in 2003....his remains are buried in Veterans Cemetery in Santa Fe......Paul Bennewitz' sons seem to refuse to be interviewed.....the main reason being that Thunder Scientific Corporation still does business with Kirtland AFB....they sell military grade humidifiers and callibration instruments, many of which were developed,modified and improved by the late Paul Bennewitz.....Paul Bennewitz' wife, Cindy Bennewitz, still lives at the residence, which is located close to the Manzano underground nuclear storage facility (which allegedly was closed down in 1992) in the Four Hills area of Albuquerque.....

MYRNA HANSEN......in 1980 she claimed to have been abducted near Cimarron, NM and claimed to have been taken to an unknown underground location......She was at at that time a resident of Eagle Nest, New Mexico......Paul Bennewitz interviewed her at his house, together with Leo Sprinkle who did a hypnotic regression....Paul Bennewitz later on decided that she must have been taken into the Dulce base.....this was allegedly only after Bennewitz begun to suspect that there was a base in Dulce....later on, a Richard C. Doty (who was with AFOSI Kirtland AFB at that time) suggested to her that she might have been taken to an undergound weapons storage facility.

TOM ADAMS......he was investigating cattle mutilations in the late 1970s....Tom Adams first heard about the Dulce base from reading Paul Bennewitz' article in newspaper and other sources from around 1981....it is alleged that Tom Adams knew "Ann West").

"ANN WEST"......her true identity is not confirmed, although Tal Levesque claims that she is on Facebook with a different name.......alleged to have been an acquaintance of Tom Adams...claimed to have drawn the initial pictures of the vats of the Dulce base in 1987, yet claims to have never heard of Paul Bennewitz before........allegedly knew Tal Levesque....also claims to have known "Thomas Edwin Castello".....Tal Levesque claims that she visited him and his wife and also "Thomas Edwin Castello" in Santa Fe......Tal Levesque claims that Ann West is dangerous and is part of the "invisible government"

JOHN LEAR.......heard about Dulce allegedly from "Ann West".... befriended TAL through John Grace (a.k.a. Val Valerian)......according to Tal Levesque, John Lear retouched the Dulce drawings of "Ann West" that he received in 1987......he first came up with his Hypothesis in 1988 about Dulce and also about Area 51....John Lear has never been taken seriously by the UFO community....some people suspect that John Lear purposely throws in some ridiculous-sounding items as part of PSYOPS....he recently claimed that there are cities on the back side of the moon.

TAL LEVESQUE.....a.k.a., TAL or Jason Bishop.......he claimed that he worked in Santa Fe as a security person for a private company around 1980 or 1981.....he claimed to have begun contact with "Thomas E. Castello" who, Tal Levesque claims, worked in the same company in Santa Fe......."Thomas E. Castello" allegedly revealed his secrets to Tal....(the secret was that there was an underground U.S./alien bio-lab under Archuleta Mesa, next to Dulce and that he had worked as a security person at that facility).....but before coming out with this "Thomas Edwin Castello" story, Tal Levesque also seems to have heard initially about the Dulce base rumors from reading about Paul Bennewitz....Tal Levesque claimed that he was visited by a tall Reptoid at his home in Santa Fe in 1979.

"THOMAS EDWIN CASTELLO".....of course, there are many persons with the same name.....however, a retired Air Force Colonel who claims that he was involved in Dulce, claims that there has never been a Thomas Edwin Castello that was ever employed as security personnel in Dulce.

CHRISTA TILTON.......some researchers seem to say that she came to the scene slightly after "Ann West".....they say that Christa Tilton and Tom Adams were initially partners.....and that she was in touch with Myrna Hansen......according to Tim Beckley, Christa Tilton later on got together with Wendell Stevens.....Christa Tilton was said to have distributed her manuscript, "The Bennewitz Papers" in 1987......She claimed that she was in touch with a Richard C. Doty (formerly with AFOSI at Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque)......Christa Tilton was featured on a Japanese TV program about the Dulce base back in 1989 and 1990.....Christa Tilton flew over Archuleta Mesa and over Soldier Canyon with Junichi Yaoi of Nippon TV in 1989....she appeared on Japanese TV a couple of times....and claimed to have taken a photo of a circular structure over Soldier Canyon, which is slightly SW of Dulce....Tilton, in her manuscript "The Bennewitz Papers" expressed her belief that the whole "Thomas E. Castello" story was a fabrication......"Ann West", in turn, reportedly claimed that Christa Tilton's information was not credible.

BRANTON.......a.k.a., Bruce Walton......beginning in the early 1990s, he compiled a book called the DULCE BOOK....and aslo DULCE WARS.....Walton allegedly got most of the information from TAL...some from John Lear, some from Val Valerian (John Grace)....Tal Levesque claimed that Bruce Walton was incarcerated in 2009 in Utah for felony charges.

GABE VALDEZ.......retired New Mexico State Patrol Officer who was in charge of the Dulce area for many years (from the early 1970s to the late 1980s)......presently lives in Albuquerque....Valdez claims that the government was most likely responsible for the cattle mutilations which started happening from around 1975.......he claims that the government may have begun to periodically monitor the radiation levels of certain cattle some years later, after the 1967 underground nuclear explosion (Project Gasbuggy) which took place about 22 miles southwest of Dulce.....Valdez also states that the government "staged" several UFO incidents in the Dulce area (Archuleta Mesa, etc.) by use of high tech equipment such as prototypes of holographic image projections as well as unmanned aerial vehicles or remotely-controlled platforms that were made to resemble "flying saucers"....Valdez believes that bio-warfare experiments were conducted at Dulce and that "UFO/alien" stories were concocted by the government as cover stories to conceal various Black Projects in the area.

WILLIAM "BILL" MOORE.....who first propagated (or "revived") the story about Roswell in 1980 when he published the book INCIDENT AT ROSWELL (until Moore's book came out, most Americans had no interest or knowledge about the Roswell incident since it was long forgotten and dismissed as misidentification by the U.S. Army in 1947)......he claims that around the same time that he began to propagate the Roswell story, he was working with Richard Doty of Kirtland AFB and participated in a disinformation ploy to saturate Paul Bennewitz (who was pursuing his independent investigations on Dulce) with false information on the Dulce base.....so he claimed in a 1989 MUFON Conference that took place in Las Vegas, NV....however there is no verifiable documentation whatsoever that Moore participated in such disinformation ploy in any official capacity.....except for his verbal "confession" that he made at a 1989 MUFON conference in Las Vegas, Nevada).

RICHARD C. DOTY.....initially with Kirtland AFB AFOSI around 1979, 1980 and 1981......he was not a high-ranking officer.....he claims he participated in disinformation, along with Moore.....again, there is no documentation that he participated in such disinformation ploy at Kirtland AFB AFOSI in any official capacity.....even though Paul Bennewitz' name and Doty's name appear on one or two Kirtland OSI documents because Kirtland AFB invited Bennewitz to testify to what he allegedly was seeing over Manzano storage areas.....later on Richard C. Doty became a promoter of the SERPO PROJECT (which some researchers seem to describe as being a total fabrication)...Project Camelot seems to have bought Doty's story hook, line and sinker......presently he is working as New Mexico Highway Patrol Officer....about to retire in a couple of months.

The most sane person, surprisingly, may have been Paul Bennewitz himself and Gabe Valdez.
It is quite possible that Paul Bennewitz had long only pretended that he had been "brainwashed" by some within the AFOSI, while he continued to conduct his own investigations into Dulce. But, nevertheless, he couldn't himself overcome his growing paranoia. Another possible scenario may have been that there was a dissension among the AFOSI and an element among the group may have provided Bennewitz with some crucial information on Dulce.

Phil Schneider was never a part of the initial Dulce base rumors.
He only came to the scene in 1995.
It was only in 1989 that Bob Lazar first came out with the story that there was an altercation between the U.S. military and "alien entities" in an underground installation. Lazar never specified any location.

..............

All this needs to be studied deeply if one is to ascertain adequately what is the Truth.

At least one of images supposedly originated by Castello has been found to be from the 2000. movie The 6th day but that alone does not discredit the original story, anyone can post a fake photo from a movie and associate it with previous case.

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/4927910e

So Dulce story is questionable, but not that important, cause there is no doubt that New Mexico is one of THE hotspots for deep underground bases of which there are probably hundreds and i mentioned many of them already like

Northrop RCS Facility, Tejon, California. Decades of UFO sightings and abductions in the area, discs coming off runways, anti-gravity drones aka probes, etc. Apparently it goes 42 stories underground, hence the nickname Anthill.....

https://youtu.be/nADPouWFfSE?t=1475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkXzcPoKaDg

Lockheed Martin Skunk Works RCS facility, Helendale, McDonnell Douglas "Llano" RCS facility, Gray Butte etc.

And this case i also shared already also talking about underground military-ET base near Albuquerque. Question arises was he taken to Dulce or is it another base inside a mountain.

https://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Sandia.html

And so on infinitely.

Getting into the underground bases is the least issue, concealed entrances can be literally anywhere, besides they are connected by tunnels underground. Dulce is not "on top of a mountain" but inside it but that is what you supposedly meant.

I take everything with grain of salt as well, and, like everyone, some things i believe more than others.

As for your not noticing that i talked of these things before, well, you were not paying attention.

Just one out of countless examples, more than 3 years ago, ALL these things

Since sinking of Poseida, last island of Atlantis archipelago, in 9,564 BC, certain brotherhoods kept gravity control techonology, safe in remote, usually underground retreats, in constant contact with ETs and underground races. In modern day with advent of power electronics in 19th century, certain inventors rediscovered that higly condensed electric charge can shield gravity and 1897 Mystery Airship wave followed, like this one for example. http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/oddities/page8.html

Many rediscovered the same electrogravity interaction later including Germans whose 50m wide craft is reported in this FBI document, whole Vril, Haunebu series and all that.
https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view#document/p88

US and other major players followed and developed their own versions of similar technology, one example being American ARV Fluxliner built by Northrop Grumman, McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) and General Electric.
https://imgur.com/CA7CIU3

All the D.U.M.B.S of which some are totally unknown like the one in Sandia mountains, or some at least known to exist like Northrop RCS facility "Anthill" - Tejon Ranch, Lockheed Helendale RCS facility - Nevada Test Site, Douglas facility, Llano, Edwards Airforce base, China Lake Naval Weapons test center..
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce/chapter28.htm

And finally few reports of man-made sub and hyperluminal vehicles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmlV8OGmJg

Some photos of these birds, screenshots of JL Walson's telescope footage.
https://imgur.com/crHpwyS
https://imgur.com/SIgEdGD
https://imgur.com/ExqdkFy

The link to thewatcherfiles files is no longer active but it is backedup, a mustread about Tejon and other bases.

https://web.archive.org/web/20030411083538/http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce/chapter28.htm

Sure, Oasphe caught your eye, but Oasphe is just a small part of a big big puzzle and still question needs to be addressed why it makes no mention of Atlantis. Public is not ready most definitely. To each his own.

[nix85]

16,714 pages of close encounters, everything I have from Humanoid Encounters by Alberto Rosales packed into one giant PDF. The most thorough insight into the scale and nature of contact that occurs constantly.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ktdsp1mblmmjjpr/HUMANOID_ENCOUNTERS.pdf/file

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