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The argument for pepetual motion

Started by onepower, July 08, 2023, 07:08:30 PM

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lancaIV

Hello,
' A permanent magnet is a product made of magnetically hard material with high "residual" magnetic induction that retains its state of magnetization for a long time. '

Condition :
Temperature( ambiental temperature=giga-oscillatons) dependent !
Barkhausen effect : common 'residual' magnetic force lining lost  ! PM new ordered orientation programming !
Chaotic to lined to : let the PM falling : re-chaotic

grain domain orientation to compressed grains=block,cube,...magnetic force orientation

How many Weiss-Domains per qmm ? Material -specific density and self-/Eigen-frequency- dependence !?

Sincerely
OCWL

lancaIV

Quote from: ramset on July 13, 2023, 10:58:26 AM
Over 3 billion people have no access to clean water
Or a light switch (cars etc etc?)


1st things 1st
Or we appear as callous sadists , who sentence the less fortunate to poverty and despair!


FE
Those who fear it and hide it are the number one issue !
Hello ramset,
local ,where these 3 000 000 000 habitants are living,in work :


the grands,parents,sons/daughters, families(m./f. side) by first responsibility !

their own estate social helper/server,non/profit orientation

U.N.O. its several sectorial serving organisations : W.H.O.,U.N.E.S.C.O,F.A.O.,U.N.H.C.R.,.....

Churches missionaries,non-profit NGO's,Red Cross/Johanniter/.....
They are not alone and do not depend from overunity.com its forum !



Ultra-? low-cost ,100% human to 100% full-automated problem resolving

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9tqVIb4cls

37 cents divided 100 liters multiplied 2,5/per capita and day  :

1 cent per day costs for clean water where a ' contaminated/dirty(grey-)water source' is available

This are 0,5% for a habitant from the ' 2$/day income/capita'-society



Let us assume Labuntogs year 2002 P26/cbm now -2023-pricely near P100/cbm

so we get 200 $cents/1000 liters x 2,5 liters = 0,5 $cent per day and 2,5 liters drink water need

         0,25 % from 2$/day and capita income
            Who is/should be concerned about this condition ?


Thousands of peoples works hourly for a 'Better World' ,there are monthly estatal/international expositions/conferences about the  'clean water serving'-sector

Competitions,challenges,....... with Prizes/Awards
World-EXPO all 4th year
Eco-Villages world-wide with lowest material use and/or re-use  project

But later,after water,there is the land for food question(and land watering,natural/artificial),the housing,the mobility,health service,......
Basic to 'Luxus' hous-/e/ing life/living condition

Sleeping-/working-/living -room,bath-room,kitchen = T0   + separated living-room } total now T1+ extra/separated child-/s-room } total T2 + separated work-room } T2+1

One capita needs 2,5 liters per day water
We can get food with up to 27 000 liters/Kg in production process water input

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.analyticjournal.de/firmen-pdfs-bilder-etc/yumda/Warenvergleich-Juni%25202018/pi-04-2018-wasserverbrauch-lebensmittel.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiOhsyLuZCAAxUkUaQEHaUuAf0QFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw29SyHtn1FVffhE3Zal6i8V

1 Kg meat = ≥ 15 000 liters water per Kg  ( 27 000 liters /1 Kg cacao beans)

Quantitative more costly than this 0,25-0,5 % !

Sincerely
OCWL

p.s.: population density and water/-ing

        Some years before was observed an Earth inclination change,       

        caused by Pacistan their artificial agrar fields watering

p.s.II : https://ourworldindata.org/region-population-2100
            meat consume/capita 2023 and ? 2100
          15 000 liters/Kg ~ divided 2,5 lt/capita = 6 000 habitants daily water demand resolved


                                        1 Kg T-bone steak dirty secret !
                                         1 Kg Fast Food Industry dirty daylife !

rakarskiy

Quote from: lancaIV on July 15, 2023, 05:00:11 AM
Hello,
' A permanent magnet is a product made of magnetically hard material with high "residual" magnetic induction that retains its state of magnetization for a long time. '

Condition :
Temperature( ambiental temperature=giga-oscillatons) dependent !
Barkhausen effect : common 'residual' magnetic force lining lost  ! PM new ordered orientation programming !
Chaotic to lined to : let the PM falling : re-chaotic

grain domain orientation to compressed grains=block,cube,...magnetic force orientation

How many Weiss-Domains per qmm ? Material -specific density and self-/Eigen-frequency- dependence !?

Sincerely
OCWL

Any generator has its own operating parameters. The magnetic field of a permanent magnet is not spent to do work. It is just that under certain conditions the magnet may lose its ability to generate the field. It is likely that if there is accumulation, there must be storage. An inductance coil does not store the magnetic field, it generates it. 

QuoteDomain - a macroscopic region in a magnetic crystal in which the orientation of the vector of spontaneous homogeneous magnetization or the vector of antiferromagnetism (at temperatures below the Curie or Neel point, respectively) is rotated or shifted in a certain - strictly ordered - way, i.e. polarized relative to the directions of the corresponding vector in neighboring domains.

Domains are formations consisting of a huge number of [ordered] atoms and sometimes visible to the naked eye (sizes of the order of 10-2 cm3).
Domains exist in ferro- and antiferromagnetic, segnetoelectric crystals and other substances possessing spontaneous long-range order.

onepower

rakarskiy
QuoteOkay, then how do we define the "magnetic field energy" of a permanent magnet?

A permanent magnet is a product made of magnetically hard material with high "residual" magnetic induction that retains its state of magnetization for a long time. Permanent magnets are made in various shapes and are used as autonomous (non-energy consuming) sources of magnetic field.

(I like this definition most of all, with the only clarification, not residual magnetization, but a running process of generation of magnetic flux. which tends to close in the Anapole state).

Personally, I don't like those kinds of definitions because it gives no meaningful information and sounds superficial. Note, the supposed definition doesn't even tell us what a magnet is, lol.

My definition would be...
A permanent magnet is a material in which some of the electron spins have been permanently aligned in one direction. The charge of the electron moving in a circle produces a magnetic field at right angles to the path of the charge. Since the path of the electron charge is locked in place so is the magnetic field producing a permanent magnetic field. In theory, any material could become a permanent magnet so long as the electron spins could locked in place and the individual magnetic fields coordinated to act in one direction.

Do you see how that works?, I didn't give a near meaningless superficial description which sounds like a 6 year old. I described how the magnetic field was produced and why it is considered permanent. I then gave some context explaining why any material could become a permanent magnet.

If were going to answer a question then we have to give a coherent answer. Versus the near meaningless psycho-babble littered with complex terms we generally see which doesn't explain anything.

AC




lancaIV

Collage from ideas :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820715&CC=DE&NR=3048277A1&KC=A1#

https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetic+memory+effect&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

What is about switchable non/permanent magnetism ?
And/or (easier) coil-wrapped PM ,like showed by Flynn brothers

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951031&CC=US&NR=5463263A&KC=A#

and here as ' closed em/pm magnetic circuit'
https://tesla3.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/zpe_hilden_brand_valve.gif

PM can not storage ?
Polygeometrical : yes ,it can !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=24&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910409&CC=US&NR=5006672A&KC=A#

The industrial permanent magnet in change :
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/02/neodymium-more-like-neo-dont-mium-new-magnet-uses-fewer-key-rare-earths/

https://www.emobility-engineering.com/clean-earth-iron-nitride-magnets/
The neodymium used in the most popular rare earth magnets (NdFeB, for example) costs about $120 per kilo, while the iron and nitrogen used in Niron magnets are tens of cents per kilo.

2035 ,open source

Iron,Nitrogen  Aluminium as coil material ,

later wrapped/evacuated Sodium/Natrium as electric conductor ,

PM in array configuration , double -ccw/cw - winding

2035 electric drive average gross selling market price :  ≤ 10 €/Kg e-/pm rotative drive
Here,all the above material applyable,

permanent input

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#

permanent output ?

C.O.P. ≤ or ≥ 1



Compared : as cascading magnet circuit modul and conversion modul array

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=30&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20030110&CC=JP&NR=2003009558A&KC=A#
Description :
[0017] translated :

Therefore, by designing a specific magnetic path based on the AC power source to be used, its frequency, and the desired output power, it is possible to obtain an output power several times to several tens of times  greater than the input power.



wmbr
OC

p.s.: in today anti-matter disclosed science ( or not) relative to electron spin the positron spin

https://www.google.com/search?q=positron+spin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m