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The argument for pepetual motion

Started by onepower, July 08, 2023, 07:08:30 PM

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SolarLab

 

Your are aware how stupid thiis shit sounds - right!

Maybe not! (Have a look at the Parker Probe)

onepower

QuoteWe don't know much, we don't use the concept of adjacent dimensions, but the "universe" is multidimensional

So to recap...

- Continuous or perpetual motion literally demanded by the Conservation of Energy is far fetched. It doesn't matter if nobody can give even one example of something not in perpetual motion, it's just silly.
- However many supposedly magical multiverses or multi dimensions leading to who knows where is perfectly fine and just common sense.

You know I may not be the sharpest crayon in the box but I know a contradiction when I see one. It's as if many are claiming we need to be realistic, stick to the facts, then lose there mind and jump down the nearest rabbit hole in spite of themselves.

AC





Nwakuche

Perpetual motion machine of second order only exists on an absolute scale when you consider the whole of the cosmos.

onepower

Quote from: Nwakuche on November 09, 2023, 01:02:05 PM
Perpetual motion machine of second order only exists on an absolute scale when you consider the whole of the cosmos.

That is a common fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
Wikipedia claims a perpetual motion machine of the second kind is a machine that spontaneously converts thermal energy into mechanical work. Which is absurd because thermal energy as jiggling particles is mechanical work (forces acting on "something" over a distance). What were talking about is converting many small mechanical motions or Heat into a larger observable mechanical motion. The second law is absurd because it displays a near complete ignorance towards what the term "heat" actually means.

Heat is not something it is a condition of something. Heat is a "measure" of how fast the particles of an object are jiggling. Which means heat is simply a measure of the average kinetic energy of the particles. Key word "kinetic", heat is a measure of the kinetic energy.

You see much of thermodynamics is bullshit because the concepts and laws were developed in the late 1800's before anyone understood what an atom is or how it works. Heat was thought to be some magical fluid and the mindset today hasn't changed much. 99% of people use the term heat and energy in a way which is essentially meaningless. On the most basic level everything is kinetic in it's nature as moving particles or EM fields.

Note how in the retarded wikipedia article they never explain what heat actually is. They talk like amateurs using bulk terms, generalizations or false analogies. They never explain that heat is the kinetic energy of particles and these particles are in fact in perceptual motion. The particles will never cease to be in motion, wtf do people think this means if not perpetual motion?.

AC