Conservation of Energy fallacies

[onepower]

My point was to show that the people claiming a FE device must violate the Conservation Of Energy obviously don't understand FE or the COE.

The COE cannot be violated therefore the energy which drives working FE devices must come from an alternate internal or external source. It's not one or the other, we can have a workable FE device and the conservation of energy.

AC

[stivep]

something about of question for cancellation of the law of conservation of energy: Response of the Russian Academy of Sciences [08.2023] about the proof of the absence of the law of conservation of energy
in short, in two words, it is a matter of someone arguing that scientists did not take into account the magnetic component in the interaction of two point charges )

My few words as a comment:
- Real Russian Academy of Science was .. -  o yea .. historical event from the soviet past.. still remembered..
   and dinosaurs too.
I would say:
-if he who listens listens fully, then he who listens becomes he who understands. _(Ptahhotep)
Physics needs something to stand on - and to move it to the new model you need to  create  one first..

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As an expert in energy systems I basically ignore the conservation of energy in my work.
AC

Listening never gets you in trouble but talking can _{(Mike Tyson)}
So  do not talk too loud  about it.
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My point was to show that the people claiming a FE device must violate the Conservation Of Energy o
AC

FE is  simply  Energy for Free - normal everyday event as energy exchange from one form to the other.
Wesley

[tonygiang]

I remember only that some patent said " Law conversion energy no math expression , on the other hand , Vladimir Utkin said " Law conversion energy always right , but it right with symmetric structures only , with asymmetric structures it is ouside of this law ! Both are  the true , may be !

[lancaIV]

Conservation ....:

or not,R&teste model D ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Pavel+imris&IN=&CPC=&IC=
6,.,7.,8.,9.,11.,15.

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OCWL
p.s.: a now R.I.P. slovakian,dissident,has had to migrate ( poste Prager Fruehling) to the U.S.A.,left the U.S.A.         went to F.R.Germany its FNL,Ex-G.D.R.(wife family origin,v.Barnim)
        ' German Wehrmacht-soldiers treated his mother during WW2 .......',the only time seeing him crying,         when he told about,as 85+ old man
        Prussian Academy,Russian Academy,American Academy : for him,as physicist ,no difference        Political : enemies !

[Cloxxki]

My point was to show that the people claiming a FE device must violate the Conservation Of Energy obviously don't understand FE or the COE.

The COE cannot be violated therefore the energy which drives working FE devices must come from an alternate internal or external source. It's not one or the other, we can have a workable FE device and the conservation of energy.

AC

Yeah, we just need an abundant substance that we can bring to a lower energy state. Say, we were able to take plain desert sand and process it into a slightly lower mass and isotope that biogrades to its original state over 1 or 5 years. The process has excess energy, worth trucking it to a processing plant. We miniaturize the process and can just load 200 kg of filtered sand into the floor of a family car which will extract 400 kWh from it, similar to 3 tanks of gas, enough to to drive a long day on. Fill up stations now just need sand silos, fresh and depleted. Delivery trains and trucks are never empty, there is a return load as well now.

There is supposedly an infinite sea of energy, we just don't know how to tap into it, so we're burning stuff we find in the ground and making very dirty batteries that can temporarily store some energy, with losses.

I'm a broken record on this, but if a true free energy device, like an antenna that gets energy from the infinite, offers a low power output for a high device mass and/or cost, it's not really such a blessing, but rather a burden. Free energy will need to offer great power density by volume and mass, and the device will need to be cheap to make and able to extract a lot of energy during its life cycle.