Global Warming, unstoppable

[ResinRat2]

Just for the record.

The implication is always that anyone opposed to Kyoto type controls is a reckless and selfish ignoramus who doesn't give a bit about the planet. Let me tell you that I have studied this issue far more than you can imagine. I also have a son, who I want to grow up and raise a family some day; but I also know human nature. There are evil and power-hungry people in offices of government and power that want nothing more than to control every aspect of your lives. This is no "conspiracy-theory" paranoid thinking. It is a realistic view of the world. Anyone who believes that people in government and oil-money influence can conspiratorially stop over-unity research should be able to easily understand why the issue of so called global warming can be used to control everyone on the planet as well.

I don't want the planet poisoned with pollution either. Why do you think I am putting so much effort into hydrogen research? Just don't fall for the alarmist cries for more control over your lives. The easiest way to get people to give up their freedoms is with a crisis, and a global-death crisis is the scariest thing next to an atomic war. By the way, this morning I woke up to -7 deg.F temperatures. Here in the Midwest USA we are near record cold temps. We have people dying in the cold.

Once you give away a freedom, you NEVER get it back without a big fight. I agree it is time for change; but we still have time. The UN, WTO, etc. only care about controlling YOUR life. They will still be driving around in their big vehicles, eating their banquets and flying their private jets. Their freedoms won't be affected, but yours will; and you didn't elect a single one of them now did you? Just remember who you are listening to and dealing with.

One more thing. Get down on your knees, humble yourself, and ask Almighty God for guidance. If that destroys my credibility in your mind then think of it this way: It sure won't hurt you one way or the other, but it just might help us all.

[Moab]

Your so right  Resonrat.. Meanwhile China the biggest contributor to pollution on this planet is exempt form all this. Europe and the north Americas are to lower there standard of living, Whilst china pollutes the planet and becomes the new "Rich nation" and super power, It is not pollution IMO, The earth gets warm and then it gets cool, Its been doing this since long before mankind walked on it. It just dose that. And no amount of government control over any one or thing is going to stop the next phase of mother earth's cycle. you would do just as well trying to outlaw asteroids, or solar flairs. Ice storms. earthquakes. Now there is an idea. Call your government and tell them you oppose any asteroid crashing in to earth. We need another international law!! Just my.02,     Moab

[Dingus Mungus]

OK we all agree we're against pollution and federal/international regulation. We also agree there needs to be a push for research in alternative energies. I feel that as long as industry feels the pinch the hardest it will stimulate research in the form of grants and real R&D of pollution free energy sources. While your right that we would loose a freedom, I feel this would further stimulate solar/wind/bio-diesel use in the average American household. You have to see that we will do what it takes to drive have electricity so imposing a ration would force people to start looking for a new source. I fully understand opposing this treaty, but the hardship it would cause I believe would better the world in the long run. Plus what are they going to do if we back out of it after signing... Bomb us? Doubt it... If the protocol does cripple our economy post ratification I'm sure we'd reject it before it caused any irreparable damage. Maybe I'm naive, but I still think it could do more good than harm.

[ResinRat2]

I agree with you Moab. The sun activity warms and cools the earth with its natural tendancies. This is to be expected. Dr. Robinson's speech is excellent. He lays out the scientific methodology and the evidence specifically on the global warming issue, and he says it straight. "It fails the test". The evidence does not support the hypothesis. Please watch his speech, the video quality could have been better, but his reasoning as a scientist is as exact as a research mind should be.

It is the duty of every scientist to disprove his own theory/hypothesis. This is how research works. No theory is ever a Fact. It is always a theory because it is up to the scientific community to disprove it. Our changing knowledge drives this, and old theories fall, and new ones are developed.

One thing is a fact though, and our Founding Fathers of the USA knew that right. Government is Power; and once you give away your freedoms it is almost impossible to get them back without some type of chaos or fight. You didn't even elect these diplomats that want to control your life. So why would you want them to control you?
Please don't be so willing to surrender your freedoms to these power-hungry maniacs.

It's below zero here in the Midwest USA this morning. I'm going to need to cover every inch of exposed skin to keep from frostbite. My mom, in Michigan, was dumped on by a ton of snow a couple of days ago. Excuse me while I try and stay warm.

[stevewal2]

Well lets see:-
Does the solar output affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Do greenhouse gases affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Which is having the greatest affect?               ------we don't know for sure.

Which one can we do something about?          ------ I'll leave that one to you.

Hey I think I must be a global warming alarmist. I'm determined to erode peoples rights to pollute. Or maybe that should'nt be a right. Does that make me a mad facist? My evil plan envolves persuading everyone that the world is heating up from all the pollution we are making, and if we don't stop we're all going to fry to death. This way I can controll peoples minds, and make them do my bidding by just saying two words "GLOBAL WARMING."