Lifters are worthless

[Steven Dufresne]

Thanks for the link steve.  Very detailed and informative, but I still couldnt find any pictures of the motor.  Did you try his motor? 

After Jean-Louis did his poynting flow motor, he then tried a poynting flow thruster:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pft12poc.htm
which is what I tested and documented on the page I pointed out. Since this started out as a Lifter topic I figured it was a logical thing to point out.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

[triffid]

Tuesday morning I bought an ionic air fresherner for $14.95.You plug it into the cigerrette lighter of your car or truck.It creates ozone off of a 12 volt battery to eliminate odors.I say this is a lifter because it creates an ionic breeze not downward but outward.Pushing ions out into the surrounding air.So this device was bought at Road Ranger in the state of mo.(a big truck stop).If the ionic breeze were redesigned to push downward instead of outward this thing would be a lifter.Small enough  already to fit in your pocket ready to be plugged into your car or truck.True it cant lift a car but if a lifter can be made small enough to put in my pocket then a power source cant be far behind.triffid

[triffid]

I realized today sometime that one could tape this ionic odor eliminator in such a way that ionic thrust could be obtained in one direction.Consider that the ionic breeze from this device is constant and uniform as it is pushed into the surrounding air.If one were to tape off half of the device.Then one might obtain ionic thrust in one direction.triffid

[triffid]

If someone here would build a 65 lb lifter with 160lbs of thrust this man could fly it.In sept of 2008 he flew a jet wing he had built himself across the english channel(22 miles).  http://www.jet-man.com/?page_id=24
YVES ROSSY is his name.     triffid

[triffid]

His wing weighed 65lb when empty of fuel and developed 160 lbs of thrust total. triffid