The most efficient machine ever built

[allcanadian]

Hello innovation
I just finished reading this whole thread and it looks like you have been busy.
There are some problems with your machine thermodynamically, namely conversion losses.
- pressurizing water results in heat losses and pressure drops due to friction add nozzle turbulence on to that.
- I think the problem in this area is energy conversion, when you accelerate the water you convert the pressure to velocity,but the energy in the water stays the same(W=F x A).
- As well when the high velocity stream hits the turbine there is turbulence,friction, the power developed being a function of change in velocity over time.
- The turbine cannot convert 100% of the velocity to momentum so there are losses, any part of the stream not hitting the turbine falls to the bottom having done no work on the turbine, the bigger the difference in velocity between the water stream and the turbine the more torque developed but the stream leaves with a higher velocity again doing no work because it falls to the bottom.
- Because the water in the bottom of the case has no velocity the pump has a higher inlet suction thus more work input is required.

I could keep going but I think you see my point, normally anytime you convert energy you have losses. Personally, I think critizism can be constructive, so I will offer you some options to consider.


- when you pressurize a working fluid(water,air) you create heat and the heat produces an expansion in the fluid we measure as pressure. If however you pull a suction on the fluid then out gassing of CO2 and O2 happens causing an increase in volume at the same time the expansion will cool the fluid through refrigeration effect decreasing its volume. This expansion will absorb heat from its surroundings not give it away- big difference.
- If you dissconnect the water supply but leave the nozzle open to atmosphere and pull a vacuum on the bottom of the case the air will accerlerate through the nozzle turning the turbine.If you then heat the nozzle you have a hot suctional force which promotes maximum outgassing.
- here is a sticky issue as well, if you pull a suction on the bottom of the case with a centrifugal fan (vacuum cleaner)the fan will speed up if the inlet nozzle is closed, why is that?
Because the fans work function is based on mass rate of flow(MRF), the more mass accelerated by the fan the more work required to drive it, and the suction or pressure developed by a fan is based soley on the tip velocity(the outside edge speed), the mass rate of flow is based on the change in aceleration times impeller flow through area.
So when the fan under suction conditions moves less air it accelerates drawing less power because the fan blades are in effect moving nozzles, when a nozzle has no flow it is considered a choked nozzle which does little or no work. The problem is that when the fan blade nozzle chokes it creates turbulence thus drag because as Victor Schauberger said " our propellers are inefficient drag devices and are thus unnatural".
Create a machine that can pull a large suction without turbulence or creating heat and you will have your OU machine regardless of what kind of generator you attach to it--- I think?


All of this is the opinion of me and victor S and could be construed as complete bullshit by some persons in this forum. In which case the person with the longest dippsy doodle times shoe size divided by there IQ shall be considered right.

[innovation_station]

what can be said? all canadian you have said lots and thanks for all of your input

the way understand it is that you are sure this will not work i guess i will keep at it and see what happins next i some how managed  to fix my pressure washer so i will see about some tests

[allcanadian]

I would suggest researching thermodynamics and applied mechanics to understand the basic processes involved, so you know what not to do. Then try something new and different in a direction you think may be better. You have gone futher than 99% of people do, by actually attempting to build something, most times we talk of our opinions but seldom act on them.
Remember there are no failures, only lessons learned on our way to success.
Best of luck

[innovation_station]

how ever i do have some questions

the generator when all is spun at once = no backtorque so that improves efficiency
the generator will be more efficient that current ac generators is that correct?

also the engine if an electric motor is 80 percent efficient or so and my turbine ends up being say 95 -98 percenr efficient  then when i put the 2 machines togather they will be  well on the engine 15 - 18 percent and on the generator around the same than the there would be a gain of 30 -38 percenr more efficient than current ways of producing power is this correct ?

so if i achive that then all i have to do to put into an overunity state of operation is find a better way to pressureize my water to use less power to do the same job as the washer is that correct?

also i have done so but agin can not afford to build i will lay the claims out now i have designed an overunity water pressureizer or at lest a higher efficiency one fore sure but i will not lay out all of the details as i have many more overunity designs for that tech aswell but agin no money but lots of designs

william

[innovation_station]

well im thinking of questions a few more


horse power teslas  turbine is rated at 95 efficient he says that 1 lb / 10 hp at 2000 rpm how is that calculated and if that were true it would have been overunity right from the start as i beleave now take the heat away from that



ok another question horse power does it increase with speed as well as torque i beleave it does if you have 10 hp at 1000 rpm then the same mass spinning at 2000 rpm should it not have 20 hp ? so speed is the main factor in output

so if my turbine weighs 30 lbs then and it spins at 15 000 rpm for it to be underunity  its mechanical output will be less than .75 hp how can that be? even if i had 1/10 of a hp at 100 rpm than it would still be far over .75 hp thus making it overunity corect?

so i guess overunity will be achived a a high rate of speed is that correct?

or if i added more weight to the turbine it would have more hp at the same rpm as when it had less weight correct ? but still using the same  .75 hp input so weight is another main factor in the output of the machine

also there is 1 more thing that must be understood and that is mommuntiom when it is spinning it will take less in put to keep spinning correct so if it took all 15 amps to get it all to spinn and say it took 15 min to get it to top speed then after top speed was reached the input power could drop some to sustain it at that speed then it would be using less power to keep running so the longer it ran for in time the more efficient it would be correct?


any answers would be a great help

thanks