Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[pese]

@barbosi

also not to use
like negistor you can use
diac diac neon-bulb

but is not Right neg.res.
lamda diodes are better

http://pixerve.de/59336/a-fe-lambda.html
http://pixerve.de/59337/a-fe-lambda.html
http://pixerve.de/59339/a-fe-lambda.html

also read , what you ca fin over KRON  (G.E.)
this is als an better way.
Pese

[Hoppy]

@ barbosi

you cant use this solid state relais at this DC ciruiits .
Also not an 12 Volt
also the are not fast enough.
real contact relais are not to replace
in some circuits !

G.Pese

I think Pese is saying, the solid state relay shown in the photo is not intended for DC opertion as it is marked for AC switching and indicates that its switching voltge range starts above 12V. These relays are made for AC and DC switching. The AC versions typically use Triacs whilst the DC versions use FET's for switching. i'm wondering exactly how this particular relay is working in the circuit.

[legendre]

Ok gents, what am I missing here?

The relay is marked for 4-32V DC (control) and 36-550VAC @10A (load). Where is the "12V" figure coming from?

Also, if it can switch AC, why can't it switch DC? I can see how the opposite wouldn't work (using an SS DC relay to switch AC).. but why would there be a problem with this relay in this circuit?

Are you suggesting BS here? I mean, it does *appear* to work just fine as-is!

[barbosi]

All I was sugesting was:

1. As shown in datasheet, the relay uses Thyristors/triacs which both have a region of negative resistance. Hence a source of free energy might be those components (and I was not commenting if those are the most eficient components among others)

Having said that,

2. A method to determine if the excess of energy is coming from the relay (aka components with negative resistance), might be to replace the relay with another type whith CMOS at the output. This second type of relay should not have that negative resistance, hence the motor should not sustain its motion.

I was only curious if we can determine where is coming from the excess energy. Is the relay or not? Bottom line, the final task of this quest is to identify the source(s) of free energy and how to tap it(them).

All the best.

[thehazepi2]

I would be interested in the following data:
A) energy used to start motor
B) time motor ran
C) RPM recordings throughout run - (does it decay?)
D) energy used to stop motor - (= or > start?)
E) energy stored in capacitor

A - D + E = usable energy / B = KWH

Also would be useful to know if energy from capacitor could be harvested and to what point it could be discharged to and still power the motor.