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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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hydrocontrol

Is it me or does anyone else notice that the gn0sis forum went from doing a Mike self running replication to a John Bedini battery running replication.. What ever happen to the self runner proof with NO BATTERY... guess it was not important...

Omnibus

@hydrocontrol,

This business with @Mike seems suspicious from the get-go. One cannot but notice how he was manipulating the enthusiasts only to disappear suddenly. What?s behind this is anyone?s guess. Boost the enthusiasm with far our claims to revamp something in which the community has virtually lost interest? I hate to see good people treated like this.

Hope to be proven wrong. Like I said, I?m waiting for @SPP-48 to report his findings.

acidbreaker

Nice work guys  :)
When I was searching web about the free energy devices i found this video on youtube.
Maybe it will help us to better understending the word of "field energy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yID01RjBzDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM_s0dXRk48

I am also apologizing because of "offtopic"
;)

dingbat

QuoteIs it me or does anyone else notice that the gn0sis forum went from doing a Mike self running replication to a John Bedini battery running replication.. What ever happen to the self runner proof with NO BATTERY... guess it was not important...

It's pretty easy to see what direction things are going there.  I'm hearing a familiar sounding tune.

I'll leave it at that for now.

hartiberlin

@Dingbat,
I had drawn today the same "compensation" circuit as you.
When we say, that the upper PNP is not conducting,
you are totally right.

About Point A you must know, that Mike did not use
the transistors he posted.
These just don?t exit in these cases...

There is no MPS8599 and MPS8099 in TO-220 !

Shadow wrote to me:


shadow


? Sent to: hartiberlin on: February 26, 2007, 07:40:35 PM ?

Hallo Stefan,
ich wei? nicht ob es schon diskutiert worden ist. Aber meiner Meinung nach verwendet Mike nicht die Transistoren MPS8599 und MPS8099 in seiner Schaltung. Auf dieser Seite http://www.gn0sis.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,33/func,view/id,2236/catid,41/limit,20/limitstart,60/
gibt Mike den Lieferanten f?r die oben genannten Transistoren an. Dort gibt es die Transistoren aber nur im TO-92 Geh?use. Auf seinen Bildern im Forum ist aber ganz andere Bauform zu sehen!!! Habe mir dann noch mal hier: http://www.alldatasheet.com/view.jsp?Searchword=MPS8099 mehrere Datenbl?tter zu diesen Transistoren angeschaut. Alle Datenbl?tter zeigen die Transistoren ausschlie?lich im TO-92 Geh?use!!! Das heisst, Mike muss hier andere Transistoren oder MOSFET?s verwendet haben. Eventuell solche mit einer Schutzdiode zwischen Emitter und Kollektor oder Drain und Source. Diese Schutzdiode w?rde in Zusammenhang mit L2 und L3 der Schaltung einen anderen Sinn geben...


Viele Gr??e
shadow
shadow


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Hallo Stefan,
habe gerade pese diese Nachricht geschickt, was denkst du dar?ber?


Hallo,

mir geht?s eigendlich um diesen fehlenden Strompfad der Spule L2 bei offenen Transistoren. MOSFET?s mit dieser internen Schutzdiode k?nnten diesen Strompfad schlie?en! Deshalb interessiere ich mich so f?r diese Transistoren die Mike verwendet.
Diese MPS8099 und MPS8599 hat er meiner Meinung nach nicht verwendet, weil es die meiner Meinung nach nur im TO-92 Geh?use gibt. Auf den Bilder ist aber eine die Bauform TO-220 zu sehen.
Es k?nnte doch also sein, dass seine verwendeten Transistoren (Typ unbekannt) diese Schutzdiode enthalten und den Strompfad schlie?en? Vielleicht ist das ein wichtiges Puzzelst?ck!

shadow
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So the lower NPN has probably a "Snubber" safety diode in it, so the path A
is condcuting in your compensation diagram...

Hmm, is the upper PNP also conducting due to this Snubber safety diode ?
Or doesn?t it have one ??
This is the big question... now...
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