Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[z_p_e]

Hi db.

I have already tried the snubber diode idea, and no effect.

If you have a close look at both mine and Mike's diagrams, you will see that they are the same, including the bridge, cap, and S1. I assure you that it is correct. Of course I've moved the FWBR output off the cap+ for now to drive a 100 Ohm load instead, but in my previous schema01 it was connected there.

The way D2 and D7 are configured right now is not to capture bemf, it capture emf, but only when S1 is ON. Why Mike did this is still a mystery right now. It would have been more "logical" to try and capture the bemf from L2 and send that to the cap+.

The bemf can be captured by feeding D2 from L2-2, and D7 from L2-1, but D7 will have to be GND referenced, not V+ referenced to do this.

Darren

[z_p_e]

How he gets the longer spike time is he used the magnetic induction in relation to the colapsing magnetic feild induction. Timing on this item is going to be tight.

I haven't seen this longer spike due to induction. By inserting D7 I have been able to see it.

I can give you any timing you want...just let me know.

Darren

[dingbat]

If you have a close look at both mine and Mike's diagrams, you will see that they are the same, including the bridge, cap, and S1. I assure you that it is correct. Of course I've moved the FWBR output off the cap+ for now to drive a 100 Ohm load instead, but in my previous schema01 it was connected there.

That's what was throwing me off.

[dingbat]

We are somewhat assuming that Mike actually knew exactly what he was doing, and that he had a purpose for it.  I'm not sure that was the case.

It appears from his circuit and his comments (if you review everything he said on gn0sis before he disappeared) that:

1) L3 is always being tapped to the capacitor through the bridge - generating both halves of the cycle.
2) He thought somehow he was putting L2 in series with L3 for part of the cycle to increase the kick to the capacitor or something.

If Mikes circuit diagram is correct, it is unclear (to me) how L2 was supposed to feed the capacitor. (I'm not saying it doesn't, but I just don't completely understand how it would work as drawn)  I can see that his intention was to tie L2 to the bridge, and to keep L3 from backfeeding to L2 (the blocking diode), etc., But I can't see how his circuit would have actually functioned as "planned?" without some addition.

I'm just rambling.

[z_p_e]

Sorry db,

But I did mention the 100 Ohm load in that other post. I added the 100 Ohm load so that the FWBR and D2 would see a load, because the cap was not providing one (it is pre-charged to 6V).

I think, unless someone has a better suggestion, I'll put the cap back in as the load, but I will add a battery to power the circuit. This way the cap can charge from 0V and we can see how circuit changes affect this rate of charge in the cap. The cap and battery +'s will not be connected together (i.e. the cap will be isolated and charged from the FWBR and D2).

Darren